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>Followed by John Frusciante in a distant second.

Ninadra Lades and Usually just a T-shirt is a fucking masterpeice. In fact, it
makes my top ten under-rated albums from the 90's list that I will be posting
shortly to AMR.

--S
Still, it's just still sound.

From: Richard Barker (richard@tool.com)
Subject: Re: One Hot Minute 

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> everyone says how bad it is, but i properly love it.

The absence of John Frusciante is a gaping wound searing across the
entirety of that album, as is Flea's decision, nascent here but
increasingly in evidence on subsequent albums (which is why I think they
suck too), not to play his bass like we all know he can, but to play it
like some bored, jobbing session musician.

The songs had potential - some for greatness, but it feels so uninspired
after Blood Sugar Sex Magik. And by the time Frusciante came back, they
all seemed to have lost that edge.

Rich

"Prof. Wagstaff" <gmarx@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jaime Jeske" <jaimej78@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> news:v4qd495i0u9nbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > It's great to go straight
> >
> > The Red Hot Chili Peppers have survived drugs, madness, breakdowns,
> > seven guitarists, £70,000 of dental surgery and six deaths (five in one
> > person). They tell Dave Simpson why it's tofu and candles from now on
> >
> > Friday February 14, 2003
> > The Guardian
> >
> > In a sectioned-off room in Milan's plush Four Seasons hotel, Chili
> > Peppers guitarist John Frusciante is explaining his unusual methods of
> > trying to come off heroin. "I's tried it by just smoking pot and
> > drinking," he says with a slight slur. "I tried to quit by taking speed
> > and other stuff, then smoking crack and just taking heroin occasionally.
> > I tried it by shooting coke. I knew I was going to die. This was January
> > and I was positive I would be dead by March if I kept on taking drugs.
> > So I tried it without doing any drugs at all. I thought, 'Let's see what
> > happens in a year. If it still feels like the world is against you and
> > people don't want you, you can go back on drugs and you can die.'"
> > Five years later, Frusciante has had no reason to go back, and he is
> > certainly loved. The Chilis' gig at the Fila Forum arena is so in demand
> > that there are people selling fake tickets, while Donatella Versace has
> > sent the band a bunch of clothes with a handwritten note, politely
> > requesting that rock's coolest survivors put in an appearance on her
> > catwalks. It's a similar story all over the world, especially in the UK,
> > where last August's By the Way album has barely been out of the top 10
> > since its release, and has now shifted 8m copies worldwide. It will
> > surely outstrip the 12.5m of its 1999 predecessor, Californication.
> >
> > In fact the album, hard-rocking yet filled with transcendental beauty
> > borne out of great pain, is a microcosm of their career since a bunch of
> > LA schoolfriends first mixed punk, funk, avant garde, disco and jazz
> > with every stimulant going 20 years ago. Nowadays, the Chilis have never
> > been in better shape. Three quarters of the band - Frusciante, singer
> > Anthony Kiedis, bassist Michael Balzaray aka Flea - have gone through
> > heroin addiction, but aside from drummer Chad Smith's lingering
> > indulgence in smoking and drinking, they are now so healthy that
> > Frusciante worries about the amount of fat in a hotel biscuit.
> >
> > Behind them lies a litany of ups and downs. This is, after all, the band
> > that has outlasted trends, drugs, madness, seven guitarists, nervous
> > breakdowns, £70,000 of dental surgery (Frusciante's teeth fell out from
> > drug abuse) and one death (of founding guitarist Hillel Slovak, from
> > heroin, in 1988). That's six deaths if you include the times Frusciante
> > has OD-ed and technically passed away.
> >
> > The Chilis have avoided the traditional rock fate (band take drugs, mess
> > up, make bad albums, clean up, but are creatively spent), and perhaps
> > the clues lie in the once broken but daily recovering figure of John
> > Frusciante. The gifted guitarist plays on the Chilis' best and most
> > successful records. He joined the band for 1989's Mother's Milk and
> > 1991's Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and then he quit, finally returning for
> > Californication. While he was out of the band from 1992 to 1998, the
> > Chilis struggled. They produced only one album, 1995's disappointing One
> > Hot Minute.
> >
> > Sitting bolt upright in a comfy chair, Frusciante is still only 32,
> > ravaged and recovering but extraordinarily childlike and vulnerable. His
> > long sleeves cover the scars of his addiction, but his words convey the
> > thoughts of someone who is intelligent and sensitive, perhaps too
> > sensitive for his own good.
> >
> > "I's done a lot of thinking and I wasn't very social," he sighs. "I felt 
> > like I was turning my brain inside out to where my subconscious was
> > becoming my conscious. I was understanding things that a man doesn't
> > have a right to understand, about the way people's energies work
> > together and who they are. Why a rock star makes one person happy and
> > another makes you... wanna kill them. I was seeing these things in a way
> > that was... disgusting. Really disgusting. I could deal with it until I
> > saw the depths. At that point, everything that was beautiful to me
> > became ugly. Everything that had previously brought me happiness caused
> > me the hugest sadness. Music. Paintings. People. It was pure depression.
> > [Heroin] caused these things to be beautiful again."
> >
> > In past interviews, Frusciante has hinted at unspecified "childhood
> > pain", but has never expanded. "It's subconscious childhood pain which
> > you've pushed into your memory and then suddenly it pops out 20 years
> > later and you's a drug addict," he whispers. Can we talk about it, I
> > ask. "Oh, come on."
> >
> > Frusciante grew up in California. Aged six, his parents divorced and he
> > flitted between living with his Mum in Santa Monica and visiting his
> > father in Florida in the summers. But the kid was happy, so what went
> > wrong? "Nothing... I mean, to have childhood pain you don't need an
> > unhappy childhood. It can be one little moment... or a period of a
> > couple of weeks that ends up growing..." A couple of weeks? "Yeah... or
> > 10 minutes in a couple of weeks that can have a profound effect on the
> > rest of your life." The silence is screaming.
> >
> > In the foyer, bassist Flea is practising yoga moves. If Frusciante is
> > the band's creative force, Flea is the talisman. His posts on the band's
> > website make both hilarious and moving reading. (December 2002: "I've
> > had a hard on for this whole flight. I haven't slept for the whole
> > fucking thing!") But behind Flea's goofball persona lurks a shy,
> > likable, thoughtful man who can feel "overwhelmed by the world",
> > confesses that touring gets "very lonely" and says he can even now be
> > found at parties "staring at my shoes".
> >
> > Perhaps the oddest thing Flea tells me is that only now - aged 40 - has
> > he finally been able to "forgive" his parents. "I was raised in a very
> > violent, alcoholic household," he says. "I grew up being terrified of my
> > parents, particularly my father figures. My dad left when I was six, I
> > didn't see him much, and my stepfather was aggressive. It caused a lot
> > of trouble in later life." From the age of 11, Flea was hanging out on
> > street corners until 4am. The Chilis' early years were a party, typified
> > by the band's now notorious performances wearing only socks (on their
> > penises) but increasingly, the party took on a darker hue. "We did drugs
> > from a very young age and it just started to kind of... steamroll."
> >
> > Everything first hit home with the death of Hillel Slovak. "When Hillel
> > died it was during one of the happiest times of my life," says Flea,
> > prodding at his green tea. "I was married and completely in love and had
> > a baby on the way. I was smoking weed and playing basketball and going
> > home and loving my wife. I felt very connected with a lot of people, but
> > a lot of that was shattered. When Hillel died, I completely hit the
> > deck." The shellshocked bassist veered between periods of abstinence and
> > abuse, which came to an end when he hit the bottom at 31. "I was this
> > incredible burst of wildness, and suddenly I was hacked down," he says.
> > "I got sick. I had chronic fatigue for a year. My system completely
> > collapsed. But I was forced to confront things about myself." Frusciante
> > had replaced Slovak, but was falling apart at around the same time as
> > Flea. High in the Hollywood hills, he virtually barricaded himself in at
> > home on a diet of heroin and hallucinations, often staying up for a week
> > at a time.
> >
> > Flea admits to still having problems with the notion of being a "rock
> > star" as opposed to a musician. "It's something other people see you as
> > and you have to take it with a grain of salt," says Flea, but even now
> > he has been known to snap when pawed by fans and then feel "terribly
> > disgusted and apologetic afterwards". But - perhaps linked in with
> > whatever happened in his childhood - the biggest burdens have been
> > carried by Frusciante. As a teenager, he followed the Chilis: "Their
> > shows were the most exciting place to be." Then he beat off scores of
> > competitors to become suddenly part of those shows. "I made mistakes
> > when I joined the band," he says, surprisingly. "The way I behaved was
> > so careless and one-dimensional. Thoughtless. I thought, girls, money,
> > drugs..." You were 18 years old, I say. "I was too young, yeah. But I
> > had two years of negligence. When I see pictures of myself back then I
> > just wanna strangle the person." Finally kicking drugs was made easier
> > by the realisation that his old emotional problems were behind him. A
> > year later, he was recording Californication. A big thing, says
> > Frusciante, was "realising that people loved me".
> >
> > One such person was Anthony Kiedis, the arty-Iggy frontman, who was
> > "very tight" with Frusciante originally, but who excommunicated the
> > guitarist for five years. As a recovering addict in 1992, the last thing
> > he needed around him was another user, and when Frusciante left and got
> > into heroin he felt "doubly betrayed". However, as the band floundered,
> > he slipped back into abuse. When Flea was despatched to ask the
> > recovered Frusciante to rejoin them, Kiedis decided to clean up for
> > good. The bad blood between them melted away with the band's delight
> > that the musical chemistry was intact. "It's like jazz musicians," says
> > Smith, of the Chilis' now uncommon method of creating music by jams and
> > improvisations. "Unspoken musical telepathy."
> >
> > Smith (who joined with Frusciante in 1988) is the most regular Chili,
> > the epitome of the drummer - solid and dependable when all is falling
> > apart. He suggests his blue-collar roots - "Michigan, smoking pot and
> > drinking, occasionally too much" - helped him avoid the band's worst
> > excesses. He is the only one who heads for the bars and fleshpots after
> > gigs, and although he confesses to occasional "mischief", it's unlikely
> > to be drug-related. If Smith has a problem, it's relationships. He has
> > three children by different mothers, and has never been able to settle
> > down. "I'm the dumper," he sighs. "I fall in love easily, but... I get
> > restless. I'll figure it out one day. Can we talk about something else?"
> >
> > Much has changed in the Chilis' camp. Tofu and fragrant candles have
> > replaced coke and heroin. Flea illustrates the transformation from the
> > "out of control, obnoxious brats" of their youth to where they are now
> > with a story. When producer Andy Gill (of Gang of Four) did what they
> > considered to be a bad job on their debut album, they shat on his mixing
> > desk. Nowadays, Flea insists, they would "calmly explain". But the idea
> > that the band has mellowed totally is as daft as expecting no further
> > bumps along the way.
> >
> > In front of 15,000 fans at the Forum, the Chilis look and sound
> > unstoppable. Flea looks as cool as any 40-year-old father flea-hopping
> > in orange underpants ever could. Kiedis smashes his muscular frame
> > around the floor. Smith can't hold down relationships but conducts the
> > audience's applause using just a drumstick and a bass drum. Most
> > poignantly, Frusciante stands stagefront with his eyes closed, lashing
> > out searing solos that seem to come from a very private place. "I's at
> > peace with myself," he said earlier, a man who knows he's blessed with a
> > second chance. "I think that when I was a young, confused and stupid
> > person who actually hadn't lived much, I think I really wanted to be who
> > I am now. In a way I's proud of all my experiences because they'se
> > helped me get here." As he turns to face the band, his face explodes in
> > glee.
> >
> > * Can't Stop, the third single from By the Way, is released by WEA on
> > Monday. The Chilis' UK tour begins at the Glasgow SECC on March 5 and 6.
> > WEA paid for the author's travel to Milan.
> >
> > © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
> >
> > Jaime

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I play guitar and so I appreciate certain guitarists out there No, I do not
like the group he is in. Red Hot Peppers music  isn't my thing, but this
John dude is so fucking cool Dig this article about him from Guitar Player
Check out his web site.

"Till I Reach the Higher Ground"
From:  Guitar Player Magazine
Issue:  November '97


- After Hitting Rock Bottom, Ex-Chili Pepper John Frusciante Confronts Life
and Art on His Own Terms...

John Frusciante sits under a rose-colored archway in the hills above Los
Angeles, clutching a pack of cigarettes and a one-hitter of pot. He's barely
recognizable at first. With a tousled mane of Jim Morrison-style hair, a
huddled posture and oddly matched clothes, he looks more like a sleepless,
absent-minded philosophy student than a rock star. Gone is the buff,
mohawk-sporting 18-year-old who once energized arenas with the Red Hot Chili
Peppers, co-wrote hits like "Under the Bridge" and "Breaking the Girl," and
stripped funk-rock guitar to its raw essentials on Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

His first two solo records, 1994's difficult Niandra Lades [American] and
the even darker Smile From the Streets You Hold [Birdman, 1409 W. Magnolia,
Burbank, CA 91506], reflect even less of his former persona. Composed of
splintered solo acoustic/electric 4-track bedroom demos rife with backward
guitar, howling vocals, enigmatic lyrics and bare-bones guitar arrangements,
they are the aural documents of an idealistic, 27-year-old who quit one of
the world's biggest bands at its creative peak, descended into heroin
addiction and barely made it out alive.

It was only in the last few weeks of 1996 that Frusciante was finally able
to kick the three-year habit that contributed to the loss of his Hollywood
Hills home and the gradual deterioration of his body; earlier this year,
John's remaining teeth were removed and replaced by dentures in order to
avoid a life-threatening infection. His right forearm appears badly burned,
and his speech, though filled with interesting insights and word games, is
slurred and erratic.

A voracious music listener, talented painter and devotee of tragic, fallen
angels like Syd Barrett, Marc Bolan, Kurt Cobain and Sid Viscious,
Frusciante is a mixture of passion, self-taught cultural erudition and
nSivetZ Ñ particularly regarding rock and roll mythology. He constantly
refers to death in the warmest possible terms. "Death is a place I'm really
looking forward to being in," he says later, strumming a vintage Gibson
acoustic in a small room crammed with videos, CDs and art books on Van Gogh,
Duchamp, Basquiat and Da Vinci. "I can also be very happy in this life, but
it's usually happiness that I get from other lives I've lived and other
dimensions. This life is hardly important to me. It's very small compared to
the importance that I think the fourth and fifth dimension have. Those
places are much more real to mee, like when you have a dream and it's more
real to you than real life. Compared to where I'll be going, this life seems
like a dream that just feels like a dream."

The recent release of Smile, new sessions in producer Jimmy Boyle's L.A.
studio, an interest in releasing tapes of 3 Amoebas (his improv trio with
Flea and Janes Addiction drummer Stephen Perkins) and his participation in
this summer's Nuttstalk tour with members of P-Funk and Fishbone represent
Frusciante's first forays back into the land of the living. But it's an
uneasy peace he maintains with what we call reality. " I think the reason he
embraces death so much," says his friend and former bandmate Flea, "is that
he wants his spirit to be free. He really doesn't care about being alive in
the physical world."

Listening to Smile From the Streets You Hold can be unnerving. Raw,
vulnerable and stream-of-consciousness, it's a dark ode to the demons and
spirits that inhabit Frusciante's head Ñ the sound of an extremely talented
guitarist in search of himself. "The title song was a very intense moment,"
says Frusciante quietly, "because I was having verbal communication with the
spirits while I was recording, and I started crying at the end of it. The
spirits give you ideas for things, and what's important to them is what's
important to me. I'm much more concerned with my fame in their world than
with my fame in this one. That's why it's been difficult for me to adjust to
being alive at all."

John Frusciante was born in New York in 1970 to John and Gail Frusciante.
John Sr. was a Juilliard-trained pianist who became a lawyer and later a
judge. Gail, too , was a promising musician, a singer who became a
homemaker, says her son, because her husband ruled out the possibility of a
musical career, though she now sings for her church and provided the
background vocals on "Under the Bridge." The family lived in Queens,
relocated to Tuscon, Arizona, and then moved to Florida for a year, during
which time John's parents separated. Moving with his mother to Santa Monica,
California, John, like a million other California kids, became obsessed with
skateboarding, Aerosmith and KISS.

By age nine he was already a budding punk rocker, wearing out copies of the
Germs' G.I. record. By ten he'd figured out most of the Germs songs in his
own tuning that allowed him to play everything with a single-finger barre.
It was a habit he'd have to break as he started lessons a year later while
living in nearby Mar Vista with his mom and new stepdad, an avid philosophy
reader and black belt who listened to Beethoven and '50s R&B but "understood
where punk rock was coming from. He really supported me and made me feel
good about being an artist."

From the Germs, John graduated to Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix,
tackled the almighty barre chord and blues scale, and began pursuing
increasingly complicated rock like King Crimson, Yes, early Genesis and
Frank Zappa, whose work he'd study for hours, learning solos and
syncopations in detail. Captain Beefheart, the Residents and other out-rock
prophets became John's pantheon, and by 17 he'd dropped out of high school
and moved to Los Angeles, where he and a friend figured a way to punch in
for classes at G.I.T. without actually attending in order to appease their
parents' desire that they get an education. He even showed up at a Zappa
audition, only to leave the rehearsal room before stepping up to the plate.
Cold feet? "Nah. I realized that I wanted to be a rock star, do drugs and
get girls, and that I wouldn't be able to do that if I was in Zappa's band."

In 1988 Frusciante first jammed with Michael Balzary, a.k.a. Flea, the bass
player of his favorite local band, the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Frusciante had
begun jamming with former Dead Kennedys drummer D.H. Peligro, who would soon
temporarily replace Jack Irons in the Peppers, and when Peligro learned of
the young guitarist's fascination with the band, he invited John to jam with
him and Flea at Flea's house on Fairfax Avenue. Less than a year later,
following original guitarist Hillel Slovak's fatal heroin overdose and a
short collaboration with former Funkadelic guitarist Blackbyrd McKnight.
Flea called the 18-year-old Frusciante with the news: He was the new Chili
Peppers guitarist. "There were bootmarks five feet high on the wall in my
room for months after that call," Frusciante remembers.

"He was just a kid when he joined," says Flea, "totally overexuberant about
everything. His playing was amazing. He was technically very competent and
much more theoretically knowledgable than I was, with a bit of the Steve Vai
guitar wizard damage. I've always relied on intuition and emotion to get me
through, and I think that concept is something he latched onto real
quickly."

From the start Frusciante wrote with the band. "Pretty Little Ditty" was
salvaged from his and Flea's first jam, and the hit "Knock Me Down" (a
knockoff of Zeppelin's "The Wanton Song") took the band's writing to a new
level of tunefulness and economy.  By the recording of the enormously
successful Blood Sugar Sex Magik in 1991, Frusciante had developed into an
intuitive and technically astute player who played funk as if it were second
nature. "But I wasn't really a funk player before I joined the band," says
Frusciante. "I learned everything I needed to know about how to sound good
with Flea by studying Hillel's playing, and I just took it sideways from
there."

It was a half-hour before showtime at a gig in Japan in 1992 when Frusciante
announced his intention to leave the group. "He just said, 'I can't do it. I
can't play anymore,'" says Flea. "He didn't even want to play that night, so
we had to beg him to do the last gig." Frusciante's disaffection had been
brewing for months. "Toward the end you could tell that his playing was
angry at the band. If the band got really soft, he'd start playing louder,
and vice versa. He did it just to be anti. He was really hating it, so as
much as I loved playing with him, it was a huge relief when he left."

When i quit the band I couldn't do anything but lay on the couch depressed,
and then I became a junkie and came to life and started playing music
again," Frusciante told L.A.'s New Times in late '96. Earlier that year, he
said, he had nearly died, as a result of his body having "a twelfth of the
blood it's supposed to have, and that blood was infected." John's house in
the Hollywood Hills became notorious for its horrific mess and
graffiti-covered walls ("My eye hurts" and "Stabbing pain with discipline's
knife" were among the scrawled epithets), and after an accidental fire and
difficulty with payments, John eventually moved out, bouncing through a
succession of short-lived stays at the Chateau Marmont and the Mondrian. Due
to the arrest of a friend under whose name the room was booked, John's many
notebooks, crammed with poetry, mathematics, word games, drawings and story
ideas, are presently locked away in the Mondrian. He wants them back, but
his concern is less for his past work than for what's going through his head
at any given moment.

"All he wants to do is be creative," says Flea. "He doesn't care about money
or personal hygiene or anything else. And he never has. If we made $10,000,
he'd give it to the pizza delivery guy. He only cares about art." Flea, a
former drug user himself, tells Frusciante what he thinks about his habits.
"John once told me, 'I don't have a problem with drugs, you have a problem
with me doing drugs.' In retrospect, I realize, yeah, I do have a problem
with drugs. I do have a problem with friends dying. It makes me really
fucking sad. I don't want him to do any drugs at all, and I tell him that.
That's all I can do as someone who loves and respects him."

by James Rotondi

You know I never apreciated just how good PPP (the peppers, pantera and
primus) were until I was stuck in some crap damp jungle for a few months
with no music........
Fucking all legends.

From: little big head (almaskeYOURMINDroni@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Worst songwriter and lyricist of alltime 

worst lyricist ever--
Anthony Keidis...
especially lately... 
http://redhotcp.tripod.com/

granted i am sure there are a few gems, but the majority of his lyrics  
are crap, imho... thank god for flea and john f. though.

 
lose YOURMIND to reply
lose YOURMIND to reply

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:54:39 -0600, little big head
<almaskeYOURMINDroni@hotmail.com> wrote:

>worst lyricist ever--
>Anthony Keidis...
>especially lately... 
>http://redhotcp.tripod.com/
>
>granted i am sure there are a few gems, but the majority of his lyrics  
>are crap, imho... thank god for flea and john f. though.

Sir Psycho Sexy is pretty great. frusciante's solo albums destroy
anything rhcp have ever done, though.. that guy is a genius.
--------
mark.
www.rookiecard.org
maynothingbuthappinesscomethroughyourdoor

dreibel@sympatico.ca (Daniel?Dreibelbis) 

??????I find it interesting that Frusciante agrees the new
album isn't quite there in an interview he did with a guitar magazine
recently, he wishes he could've done more on it to make it more
complete. In any case, he also mentions that he and Flea are putting out
an instrumental album pretty soon in which they explore some wilder
territory. 

***from what i understand, he wasn't happy with the way rubin mixed the
songs- didn't seem all that happy with his production. they've had a
long run with rubin and i think it might be time for a change on the
next album.

the next new album from frusciante should be a solo album but flea and
chad play a bit but john sings, so i'm not sure about the instrumental
album comment. actually, now that i think about it, i think they've (jf
and flea) have been collaborating with one of the mars volota guys
(omar?) on the project you're talking about but i kinda think it may not
see the light of day. at least not for awhile.

From: Greger Hoel (gregerh@spamblock.net)
Subject: Re: How many jazzers like Jimi? 

View: Complete Thread (103 articles) 

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:07:01 -0700, "Adam Bravo" <mradam@cox.net>
wrote:

>I was thinking about this last week, and now it happened to come up:
>
>I'm sorry for being blasphemous, and I know I'm going to get flamed, but can
>I ask why exactly he was so influential? Everyone talks about him as
>revolutionizing rock guitar, but, frankly, I don't understand how. When I
>listen to him, I hear a really really good blues rock player, but not much
>different stylistically from those who came before him. I know it's not a
>question that's easily answerable, but can somebody perhaps try to shed some
>light?

In a nutshell, he was more *electric* than anybody else. 

I don't really understand the "not much different stylistically" point
of view. I think he was stylistically different from everyone, both
before and after. I can't think of one of his forerunners whom he
sounds even close to. As to later generations; most rock guitarists
was influenced by him, but none sounds like him. Yeah, I mean that in
a stylistical sense. Robin Thrower sounds kinda similar sound-wise,
but he's more a pumping rock player. I don't think SRV sounds like him
at all. SRV played heavy handed, always with a lot of muscle, whereas
Hendrix' playing always sounded light and frivolous. It's like
comparing Foreman to Ali. The one I think comes closest to Hendrix'
phrasing is John Frusciante on the one good Red hot Chilli Peppers
album: Blood Sugar Sex Magic.

There are cats who play faster, cleaner, more sophisticated
harmonically, who rock more or swing more, but Hendrix was just
otherworldly. I'm not a fanboy or a spiritual new age crap-pimp, but
that's the best way I can describe him.
-- 
Greger

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:58:34 GMT, "tooldiscography.com"
<shane@toolshed.down.net> wrote:

>
>I'd like to offer two candid opinions on this topic. That's not
>something I'm known for and I'm hoping it won't be a problem. I'd like
>to start by using the term "mind-altering substances" in place of
>"drugs", knowing that this is a global medium and laws are different everywhere.
>
>You will not scare your child / ward away from trying / using
>mind-altering substances. The best you can do is educate and try to have
>others do the same for your child / ward's peers.
>
>Time magazine ran a progressive cover story about legalizing /
>decriminalizing marijuana. What Time missed was summarized up in a
>letter from a reader in the following issue:
>
>"Of all the risks involved with pot smoking, the biggest one is getting
>arrested and thrown in prison with violent criminals."
>
>The single most important thing that anyone can tell their child / ward
>about illegal mind-altering substances is that they are that, illegal.
>What parents need to do is research their locale's laws, sit down with
>their child / ward, and explain the consequences of being caught with
>said substances. Most people do not know what amounts constitute "simple
>possession" vs. "possession with intent to distribute" or what
>punishment each confers.
>
>You may not agree with the laws but that's no excuse for not knowing
>them. It is also recommended that you research your rights in times of
>police search and seizure.
>
>The second most important thing that anyone can explain to their child /
>ward are the effects of mind-altering substances. Unfortunately, there
>are a huge gaps of inadequacy in the available information. The most
>glaring is the lack of "typical" substance reactions. Too often,
>information is tainted by bias and only demonstrates the absolute
>worst-case experience. I've found the following book to be extremely useful:
>
>From Chocolate to Morphine: everything you need to know about
>mind-altering drugs (1998) by Weil & Rosen
>
>You can find more information on it at - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395911524/tooldiscograp-20/
>
>I hope this has been helpful out-of-the-box thinking for some of you
>determined to, perhaps, scare the hell of your kids with stories of
>Layne Staley's awful demise or John Frusciante's harrowing spiral. I'm
>pretty sure Staley and Frusciante were aware of Charlie Parker, Gia
>Marie Carangi, and the many others before them.
>
>be careful by being educated,
>shane.


awesome book.  great post.  i agree totally.



numquam intellegere potest

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:

> It pains me to type this, but Joe Strummer passed away.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/23/britain.strummer/index.html
>
> I simply cannot believe this.  So many of those who literally changed
> my life have been taken far too soon, Ian Dury, Joey Ramone, and now
> Joe Strummer.
>
> Rest in peace, Joe.
>
> --
> Reasonable Facsimile is OldSkaterGuy@yahoo.com

bummin. i like the clash, but i never got too into them. but i've seen a
lot of my heroes go too.

kurt cobain
srv
joey ramone
bob ross (yes, the painter)
george harrison

shit, that's all i can think of at the moment. i'm so glad john frusciante
didn't die when he was doing junk.

of course, that list doesn't include my heroes who passed before i was
born.

now and then, i still cry for kurt. poor guy had a hard life.

--
Don't wear your pads.

The Horse wrote:
> apparently he did almost a whole album of covers 

Pretty close. The majority of the songs on The Man Comes Around (2002)
are covers with the exception of 4 songs (1 of which is Cash covering
himself). The covers include:

Nine Inch Nails - Hurt
Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubles Water (with Fiona Apple)
Sting - I Hung My Head
First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus (with John Frusciante)
Beatles - In My Life
Danny Boy
Eagles - Desperado (with Don Henley)
Hank Williams - I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry (with Nick Cave)
We'll Meet Again

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006L7XQ/tooldiscograp-20

One of my favourites of 2002

shane - www.tooldiscography.com

Message 1 in thread

Can anyone tell me from which two songs, according to John Frusciante,
the guitar riff of "under the bridge" originated?? Answer would be
much appreciated!!

thanks, Roelio

Roelio <rnoorman@bart.nl> wrote in message news:3ae34fe5.8047239@news...
> Can anyone tell me from which two songs, according to John Frusciante,
> the guitar riff of "under the bridge" originated?? Answer would be
> much appreciated!!

I thought Frusciante wasn't with the band on that album.


Stan

no, John joined RHCP during mothers milk, which was prior to Blood Sugar.  
> 
> 

Infinity <mackinlarge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:01c0cbb3$01cef9e0$74ebb5d0@default...
> no, John joined RHCP during mothers milk, which was prior to Blood Sugar.

I know he wasn't the first guitarist.  But I was under the impression that
he took off at some point and returned for CaliforniCation (and that Blood
Sugar Sex Magic was the previous album before CaliforniCation.)


PurPle STAiN,
http://stansqncrs.8m.com/
"Celleloid love's got a John Frusciante"

> I know he wasn't the first guitarist.  But I was under the impression that
> he took off at some point and returned for CaliforniCation (and that Blood
> Sugar Sex Magic was the previous album before CaliforniCation.)

John joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers at 18 for the Mothers Milk album. He
then got disillusioned with touring and left the band after the BSSM tour.
The Chili's then enlisted Dave Navarro for the album "One Hot Minute".
However Navarro did not fit in with the band  -  for a start he admitted to
not liking funk music. His style of writing was also different to Johns.
Navarro prefered to spend long periods of time working out his guitar solos
etc to perfection on his own, before joining the rest of the band. John
preferred to jam with the band and develop his muisc with the others.

As a result Navarro left the band and John rejoined the band to write the
Californication album.

As for the origina question I;m not sure which two songs John used.

Dave

From: JACKSON739 (jackson739@aol.com)
Subject: Soundscan-The Top 10 Albums 

This is the only article in this thread 

ALL IN THE FAMILY: Although the hordes of pubescent ''ladies'' currently
swooning over Crazy Town's tat-heavy, piercings-aplenty smooth-tip
''Butterfly'' come-on probably don't recognize it, that track's grooved-out
appeal owes a big debt to the Red Hot Chili Peppers' John Frusciante, who
played the guitar hook liberally sampled in ''Butterfly'' on 1989's Mother's
Milk (''Pretty Little Ditty''). Although the story of how the sample made its
way onto ''Butterfly'' has yet to be told, both Crazy Town and RHCP are managed
by New York's Q Prime, which would presumably make clearing such a sample a
piece of cake, which Q Prime would then get to eat, too, by commissioning not
only royalties from the Crazy Town record, but from the RHCP sample as well.
Crazy Town shoots to No. 10 this week, selling 82,000 copies.

NY POST/By DENISE BUFFA 
. . . 

--Stella Schnabel, the 20-year-old daughter of artist Julian Schnabel, is
engaged to Red Hot Chilli Peppers guitarist John Frusciante. 

Search Result 731

Just to put the excerpt that Dust.Bunny posted in perspective here's the entire
article from Allstar:

Rocktropolis allstar daily music news: 

June 15, 1998

http://www.allstarmag.com

Edited by Carrie Borzillo


DAY TWO OF THE TIBETAN FREEDOM CONCERT: SURPRISES SALVAGE THE WEEKEND 

  Day two of the Tibetan Freedom Concert on Sunday (June 14) at
Washington,
D.C.'s RFK Stadium was marked by surprises -- both positive and negative
--
which in itself should  not  be surprising, given the tumultuous events
of
day one, which we reported on Saturday (June 13) and is reposted on this
page as well.
 
  Four acts whose sets were canceled on Saturday were hastily
rescheduled
overnight for day two; R.E.M. and Radiohead swapped singers for one song
each; the highly- anticipated set by Pearl Jam befuddled the crowd; and
perhaps most surprising of all, an unannounced closing set by the Red
Hot
Chili Peppers stole the show.
 
  The Chili Peppers, who had played at D.C.'s 9:30 Club on Friday (June
12)
night (see accompanying story today), and who had not been rescheduled
after their slot was canceled on Saturday, sprinted onstage after Pearl
Jam's closing set, to the delight of the dispersing crowd, most of whom
rushed back into the stadium when they heard the opening strains of
"Give
It Away." Bassist Flea, sporting a Dennis Rodman-ish spider- pattern
buzz
cut, flailed and shimmied; returning guitarist John Frusciante even
kissed
singer Anthony Kiedis during the song's quieter bridge.
 
  "We'd like to thank Pearl Jam for letting us have a little of their
set
time," said Kiedis just after the crowd's sing- along to their second
song,
"Under the Bridge." And just after their manic third and final song,
"The
Power of Equality," Kiedis led the spent crowd in a call- and- response
chant of "Free Tibet if you want to be peaceful." Kiedis and Flea then
exchanged playful goodbyes to each other: "I love you"; "I love you
too,"
and sprinted back off.
  
  It was strange that the Peppers, who were dormant for so long, would
provide a wake-up call needed to revive a dwindling crowd that had grown
tired and bored through Pearl Jam's set. During the Seattle band's eight
songs, about half of the audience streamed out; those left wore a
glazed,
indifferent look. Granted, sound problems had plagued the concert all
day...

From: Jaime Jeske (jaimej78@cox-internet.com)
Subject: This and that 7/10/02 Part 2 

Newsgroups: alt.gossip.celebrities
Date: 2002-07-10 22:43:24 PST 

MTV

Red Hot Chili Peppers Blend Californication With Immigration At Ellis
Island
07.10.2002 4:49 PM EDT
By Jon Wiederhorn

NEW YORK - For a while, the first Red Hot Chili Peppers show after the
release of their new album, By the Way, seemed in jeopardy of not
happening.

The gig was set for Ellis Island, next to the immigration museum, which
is only accessible by ferryboat. As the Peppers prepared to board the
vessel to take them to the concert grounds, the skies opened up.
Lightning bolts zigzagged across the horizon, thunder clapped with the
volume of exploding mortar shells and 1,000 fans and industry folk
huddled for safety under rows of trees and a small boathouse filled with
security personnel.

Undaunted, the band, its crew, members of the press and a smattering of
celebrities - including Demi Moore and magician David Blaine - filed
onto the craft, which pitched on the stormy sea like Gilligan's S.S.
Minnow until it finally reached shore. For the next two hours, the rain
slowed, but didn't stop, and by the time the band hit the stage, much of
the audience was waterlogged. The dark clouds and cold rain didn't
dampen the Red Hot Chili Peppers' spirits, though, and during the
concert they enthusiastically spread their bittersweet California
sunshine rock throughout the venue.

The event marked the second album-release concert the band has staged in
New York. In 1999, it played on the top of the World Trade Center to
promote the release of Californication, which seemed reason enough to
view last night's concert as a tribute to the strength, endurance and
spirit of New York City - especially since the post-9/11
downtown-Manhattan skyline was visible stage right. The radio station
that sponsored the show had that perspective as well, reserving half the
tickets for people who lived near the WTC site, but the band seemed
oblivious to the political significance of the gig.

"We're just kissing ass to the radio station," bassist Flea said
backstage before the concert. "We're doing a show for them 'cause our
manager told us to. This is an interesting place, though. I have
Hungarian heritage and Irish heritage and I imagine those people coming
here and having their names changed. I was thinking about how bizarre it
must have been for them to come up and see the New York skyline and come
here and be at the mercy of a bunch of bureaucrats. It must have been a
completely weird turning point in someone's life."

During the evening, the Red Hot Chili Peppers didn't reference 9/11,
terrorism or New York. Instead, they focused on the exuberance, joy and
emotional revelation of their music, including six songs from the
swooping and eclectically melodic By the Way, which fit in nicely
between the trademark punk-funk exhortations and melancholy ballads of
the band's prior recordings.

They opened with the new single "By the Way," and immediately shifted
into high-energy, fun-loving performance mode. Bare-chested singer
Anthony Kiedis jitterbugged with his mic, singing with clarity and
warmth while Flea fidgeted in place and guitarist John Frusciante raised
his guitar skyward to punctuate each dramatic musical phrase.

There was no doubt the band was in the mood to celebrate, and for the
Red Hot Chili Peppers no party is complete without liberal doses of
humor. "I don't want anybody to take their clothes off," Flea said after
a rousing "Around the World." "It would be like sh---ing in Uncle Sam's
birthday cake."

Kiedis followed by congratulating a couple that just got married and
jesting that the Peppers would be the wedding band for the evening.
"This will be the first of three sets. Help yourself to cocktails.
They're not free of charge."

Then the group started "Universally Speaking," just one of the many lush
sprightly tracks from By the Way. The song sounded like a blend of Big
Star and the Beach Boys, and considering how he's veered off-key in
concert in past years, Kiedis' vocals were surprisingly precise and
passionate.

During the more upbeat tunes, he sang with percussive urgency, and at
more tender moments, he crooned with flowing grace as Flea thrummed away
rhythmically and drummer Chad Smith kept up a steady, flavorful beat.

But it was guitarist John Frusciante who provided some of the most
exciting moments of the evening. The single most important factor in the
band's post-One Hot Minute comeback, he provided many of By the Way's
unconventional arrangements, soaring background vocals and stylistic
flourishes. And he's a hell of a live presence. With scraggly hair,
glazed eyes and arms badly scarred from past years of drug addiction, he
looked like an escapee from a mental institution and played like a
divinely inspired virtuoso whether strumming wakka-wakka funk, jangly
pop, jagged reggae, echoey atmospheric rock or ripping out squiggly
solos.

The short set consisted of 15 songs, and many of them were from
Californication, including the title track, "Scar Tissue," "Otherside"
and "Parallel Universe." Strangely, during their regular set, the band
played nothing from their biggest album, Blood Sugar Sex Magik. The
songs from By the Way included "I Could Die for You," the insistent,
groove-laden "Can't Stop," and the textural, evocative "Venice Queen."

Despite the sometimes aching vibe of the new material, much of which was
written about the end of one of Kiedis' romantic relationships, the
Ellis Island concert was consistently upbeat, and the crowd cheered,
bounced and sang along as the band played.

"One good thing about playing on an island is if you're having a bad
moment, you guys are just stuck here," Kiedis told to crowd after
"Venice Queen," even though the band's set was practically flawless.
"You can't leave. We could start playing Bon Jovi covers and you'd still
have to stay [until the ferries come after the concert]."

Fortunately, the Red Hot Chili Peppers didn't follow with "You Give Love
a Bad Name" or "It's My Life." Instead, the band closed with "My
Friends," then encored with "Under the Bridge" and "Power of Equality,"
providing plenty of reflection and punch for the fans that stuck it out.
Even the bomb-sniffing dogs scouring the venue's perimeter couldn't take
away from the triumphant vibe.

From: Lili2 (lili2@aol.com)
Subject: 20 years with Flea and the Red Hot Chili Peppers 

This is the only article in this thread 

NY POST

By DAN AQUILANTE 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------


May 16, 2003 -- AS impossible as it seems, the Red Hot Chili Peppers are
officially among the elder statesmen of rock. 

It may feel like yesterday that you were singing "Suck My Kiss" or "Under the
Bridge," but it's been 20 years of tattoos, spanking college girls on stage at
spring break shows and playing encores wearing nothing but strategically placed
jock socks. 

The seminal Southern California punk/funk outfit first began playing together
in 1982. 

A hint of their greatness was evident with the 1989 record "Mother's Milk," and
came to fruition as they began working with producer Rick Rubin on albums such
as "BloodSugarSexMagik," "Californication" and the recent "By the Way." 


With the exception of guitarist John Frusciante, everyone in the band is in his
40s. 

Flea, born Michael Bazary, 40, dates himself when he describes the music he
preferred as a kid. 

"I was raised on jazz and bebop. That's the music that really moved me. Before
I played bass, I played trumpet." But his brass dreams vaporized when he
started listening to punk and learned to play the instrument he's best known
for - the bass. 

"I love the bass," Flea told The Post after a sound check in Toronto this week.
"I love the way my strings feel under its fingers.' " 

You want to correct Flea about what has strings and who has fingers, but like
Popeye, this thoughtful performer says what he means and means what he says. 

The band plays sold-out shows Monday at the Meadowlands and Tuesday at Madison
Square Garden. 

Post: You're celebrating your 20th anniversary as a Chili Pepper. What's kept
the band together? 

Flea: We have an underlying love and a brotherhood. We have disagreements, but
they're part of being in a band. 

Post: Have the Chili Peppers ever considered calling it quits? 

Flea: No. As long as the music is vibrant and exciting and meaningful for us to
do, we're going to continue. See, music is a spiritual exercise. We're trying
to get close to the source of where it comes from. If we didn't feel movement
in the music, that feeling of change, then we wouldn't still be together. It's
not like we need the money. 

Post: You also practice yoga. 

Flea: It makes me feel good. I like it. That's all. Particularly when I'm on
tour, living at that crazy pace, dealing with gigs every night where I jump
around like an insane man. Yoga is perfect for me. It's slow and gets me in
touch with myself. 

Post: Is the workout you get on stage and yoga how you keep trim? 

Flea: I'm naturally a skinny guy. I have a fast metabolism. If I get out of
shape, I don't get fat, I get really skinny. I exercise. I surf. I play
basketball. This is the way I live. 

Post: Before, you mentioned the improvisational elements of the Chili Peppers.
People don't really think of you guys as a jam band. 

Flea: We really are. More than half of our songs come out of jamming. When we
play live, we always jam. It's a big part of who we are. We've played a lot of
music into the air and it disappears without ever being recorded. 

Post: Your devotion to funk has been a signature of the Chili Peppers. Where
does that come from? 

Flea: I've always been very into funk, since I was a kid. Then, it was the punk
bands of the late '70s and the early '80s that moved me. 

Post: How does funk come to terms with punk? 

Flea: The music and the feeling of funk dictated my concept of what music was.
The energy of punk rock, the feeling of the moment, was something I tapped
into. I couldn't help but relate to it in a natural way. When you put that
together, the music comes out the way it is. 

Post: I've read you love Australia. 

Flea: I was born there, and I'm a citizen of Australia. 

Post: If you ever retire, is that where you'll go? 

Flea: I already have a home there. I've considered moving because I'm such a
nature boy and my place is in a very rural area, but for the time being, it
doesn't make sense. Even if I wasn't in the Chili Peppers, I'd still want to
make music at a high level, with other musicians who excite me. It's hard to
find them way out in the country. 

Post: Your daughter Clara is 13. She has one of the most famous fathers in
rock. How does she deal with the celebrity? 

Flea: It isn't a problem for her. She doesn't like it if she feels like someone
wants to hang out with her because of me. But she's a clear-headed kid and she
sees when that situation is manifesting itself. 

Post: You're a single father. Does that make touring hard? 

Flea: It's difficult to be away from her. She wants me to be home, because she
misses me and loves me - likewise for me. It causes me a lot of melancholy. I
want to be there to guide her and help her with her schoolwork, and do all the
things dads want to do. That's the challenge in my life.

"mother asks me to hold her feet as she does her noon sit ups.  So i do, but
mother does them all wrong.  Someday she might suffer from back problems"
from  To Kill a Mawking Bird     by    John Frusciante

Quoting from Total Guitar interview with John Frusciante:

"As for amps I was using this big Fender spring reverb from teh 60's with a
modulation synthesizer - thats the sound you hear on the Throw Away Your
Television chorus"

Search Result 775

Why does some one from this century have to be nu-metal 7 stringin'? Kinda
lumps everybody not my dads age into one lump sum..
Come to think of it, I hardly think Steve Vai qualifies for a darwin award.
:)
Though his tone could be questionable in comparison to the greats of yore.

John Frusciante of the chili peppers is a 30's something dude (kinda
hammered now from heroin) with awesome tone and quirky chops. Uses the
chorus sounds of the univibe and Ce-1.
Mothers Milk and Blood,Sugar,Sex magic are his forte'.
peace,
tv
From: Frank_N_Furter (hewasntrightinthehead_pants@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: exercises for learnig F chord? 

View: Complete Thread (18 articles) 

i actually like the john frusciante sort of sound i get from using that F/C
instead of a normal F... i have started playing some of my Gs like that as
well, depending on the song.

Frank


"Technician" <travis57@megalink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.189b76086a7c067798973a@news.megalink.net...
> I know how to do the F chord, but i was wondering if there were any
> exercises i can practice so i can play the F chord. Just playing it over
> and over is quite dull and does not seem to help any.
>
> I need to practice this a lot simply because most of the songs i wish to
> play use them. i tried barring just strings 1 and 2 (high E, B) and
> leaving 6 (low E) muted, but it just sounds bad. and if there are people
> that can play it than i shouldn't be cheating myself by not playing it
> right.
>
> links are welcome.
>
> thanks in advance for any help.
>
> ~Travis
> --
> Now i can receive email on my Palm i705.
> palm at travisfarmer dot cjb dot net
> checked about as often as the moon is full

how about because it's a good riff. Or some kind of parody between
punk rock and mainstream rock???

Mothers Milk was also John Frusciante's debut. Maybe he was just
showing off. They cover Hendrix "Fire", and throw in some Slash.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:07:33 +0100, "Ugo" <ugordan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>So, a friend of mine inserts this CD of Red Hot Chili Peppers (the album is
>"Mother's Milk") into the player and, knowing what a GNR fan I am, plays a
>track called "Punk Rock Class" (something like that). The track is a minute
>and a half long, but the interesting part comes some 15 seconds before its
>end. I won't tell what the deal here is, just for fun, but if anybody knows
>what I'm talking about, I'd like to hear some thoughts... Did they do that
>for fun, to make fun of a great song, or were they just jealous of not
>having such a hit?
>

Today in History - MARCH 5 

Today is Tuesday, March 5, the 64th day of 2002.  There are 301 days left in
the year.  On this date: 

In 1623, the first temperance law in the colonies was enacted in Virginia. 

In 1750, the first Shakespearean play in America, "King Richard III," was
presented at the Nassau Street Theatre in New York City. 

In 1766, Spanish official Don Antonio de Ulloa arrived in New Orleans to take
possession of the Louisiana Territory from the French. 

In 1770, the Boston Massacre took place as British soldiers, who had been
taunted by a crowd of colonists, opened fire on the hecklers, killing five
people. 

In 1849, Zachary Taylor took the oath of office at his Presidential
inauguration. 

In 1864, Oxford met Cambridge for the first time in track and field competition
in England. 

In 1868, the U.S. Senate was organized into a Court of Impeachment to decide
charges against President Andrew Johnson. 

In 1872, innovator George Westinghouse patented the air brake. 

In 1893, Emmett J. Culligan, inventor of a water-softening device and founder
of Culligan Water, the world's largest water-treatment company ("Hey Culligan
Man!"), was born.  He died in 1970. 

In 1908, actor Rex Harrison was born Reginald Carey Harrison in Hyton, England.
 He made his stage debut at age 16.  Following World War II, Harrison went to
Hollywood and landed roles in such films as "Anna and the King of Siam," "The
Ghost and Mrs. Muir," "Unfaithfully Yours," "The Four Poster," "The Reluctant
Debutante," "Midnight Lace," "The Yellow Rolls-Royce," "The Agony and the
Ecstasy," "Doctor Dolittle," "The Prince and the Pauper" and "Ashanti."  He was
nominated for an Oscar for his role of Julius Caesar in "Cleopatra," and a year
later won both a Tony and Oscar for the stage and screen versions of "My Fair
Lady."  Married six times, Harrison's wives included Marjorie Thomas (1934-42),
actress Lilli Palmer (1943-57), actress Kay Kendall (1957-59), actress Rachel
Roberts (1962-71), Elizabeth Harris (the ex-wife of actor Richard Harris), and
Mercia Tinker.  In 1948, Harrison's name made headlines in connection with the
suicide of actress Carole Landis, who was rumored to be romantically involved
with -- and spurned by -- the actor.  Harrison's eldest son Noel, by his first
wife, became an actor as well.  Harrison was knighted in July 1989; he died of
pancreatic cancer at age 82 on June 2, 1990. 

In 1922, Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show headliner and sharpshooter Annie Oakley
(Phoebe Anne Oakley Mozee) broke all existing records for women's trap shooting
when she blasted 98 out of 100 clay targets thrown at 16 yards while at a match
at the Pinehurst Gun Club in North Carolina; Oakley hit the first 50 targets,
missed the 51st, then hit all the rest except for number 67. 

In 1923, old-age pension laws were enacted in the states of Montana and Nevada.


In 1924, Frank Caruana of Buffalo, New York, became the first bowler to roll
two perfect games in a row and an amazing 29 strikes in succession. 

In 1927, actor Jack Cassidy was born John Joseph Edward Cassidy in Richmond
Hill, New York.  He made his Broadway stage debut at age 15 in "Something for
the Boys" and by the 1950s and '60s he was an established star of the musical
stage.  In films, he starred in "Look in Any Window," "The Chapman Report,"
"The Cockeyed Cowboys of Calico County," "Bunny O'Hare," "The Eiger Sanction,"
"W.C. Fields and Me" and "The Private Files of J. Edgar Hoover."  Cassidy also
made many guest appearances on various TV shows, and reportedly turned down the
role of newsman Ted Baxter (subsequently played by Ted Knight) on TV's "The
Mary Tyler Moore Show."  His son, by his first wife Evelyn Ward, is actor-pop
singer David Cassidy.  With his second wife, actress-singer Shirley Jones,
Cassidy had three additional sons: actors Shaun and Patrick Cassidy, and set
designer Ryan Cassidy.  He died at age 49 in a fire that destroyed his Los
Angeles apartment on December 12, 1976; he had fallen asleep on a couch with a
lit cigarette. 

In 1933, in German parliamentary elections, the Nazi Party won 44 percent of
the vote, enabling it to join with the Nationalists to gain a slender majority
in the Reichstag. 

In 1935, Annie Oakley (Phoebe Mozee; see 1922 above) was immortalized on film
as "Annie Get Your Gun," which was also later made into a musical for the
stage. 

In 1936, at the 8th Academy Awards gala at the Biltmore Hotel in Los Angeles,
MGM's "Mutiny On The Bounty" was voted best picture of 1935, with Victor
McLaglen ("The Informer") named best actor and Bette Davis ("Dangerous") named
best actress (no supporting actor/actress awards were given until 1937).  John
Ford won best director for "The Informer" and Walt Disney won the best animated
short subject Oscar for the cartoon "Three Orphan Kittens." 

In 1946, Winston Churchill delivered his famous "Iron Curtain" speech at
Westminster College in Fulton, Missouri. 

In 1953, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin died at age 73 after 29 years in power. 

In 1963, country music performers Patsy Cline, Lloyd "Cowboy" Copas and Harold
F. "Hawkshaw" Hawkins, together with pilot-manager Randy Hughes, died in the
crash of their light plane near Camden, Tennessee.  (See also "Music" entry for
1963 below.)

In 1970, a nuclear non-proliferation treaty went into effect after 43 nations
ratified it.

In 1973, an Iberia Airlines DC-9 jetliner collided in midair with a Spantax
Convair 990A Coronado jet near Nantes, France; the Convair, carrying 114
persons, landed safely but the DC-9 crashed, killing all 68 on board.  (See
also "Music" entry for 1973 below).

In 1977, U.S. President Jimmy Carter took questions from 42 telephone callers
in 26 states on the first-ever "Dial-A-President" radio call-in program, which
was moderated by TV newsman Walter Cronkite. 

In 1982 (20 years ago), comedian John Belushi, star of "National Lampoon's
Animal House," "The Blues Brothers" and TV's "Saturday Night Live," was found
dead in a bungalow at the Chateau Marmont Hotel in West Hollywood, California,
following a cocaine, heroin, and alcohol binge; he was 33. 

In 1984, the Los Angeles Express of the United States Football League (USFL)
signed quarterback Steve Young, from Brigham Young University, to a
"substantial" contract that would pay him $40 million over a 43-year period
(lasting until 2027).  The USFL folded not long after Young signed the
lucrative deal. 

In 1985, Mike Bossy of the New York Islanders became the first National Hockey
League player to score 50 goals in eight consecutive seasons.  There are two
players who have scored 50 goals in six seasons: Wayne "The Great One" Gretzky
of Los Angeles and Guy Lafleur of Montreal. 

In 1986, in Lebanon, Islamic Jihad issued a statement saying it had "executed"
French hostage Michel Seurat, who had been abducted almost a year earlier. 

Ten years ago (1992): Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey dropped out of the race for
the Democratic presidential nomination.  The trial of four Los Angeles police
officers charged with beating motorist Rodney King opened in Simi Valley,
California. 

Five years ago (1997): The Ohio River rose to its highest level in a
generation, flooding the Louisville, Kentucky, area.  Tommy Lasorda, Nellie Fox
and Willie Wells Sr. were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.  North and
South Korea met for the first time in 25 years to talk peace. 

One year ago (2001): Vice President Dick Cheney underwent an angioplasty for a
partially blocked artery after going to a hospital with chest pains.  Two
students at Santana High School in Santee, California, were shot to death and
13 other people were wounded; a student, Charles "Andy" Williams, was charged
in the shootings.  In Mina, Saudi Arabia, a stampede broke out during the
annual hajj pilgrimage, killing 35 Muslims. 

////////// Today in Music History: 

In 1917, the first jazz recording for Victor Records was released as the
Original Dixieland "Jass" Band performed "The Dixie Jass Band One Step"; the
word "Jass" was later changed to "Jazz." 

In 1931, "Without a Song" was recorded by Lawrence Tibbett for Victor Records;
the song was from the film "The Southerner" and was subsequently recorded by
such artists as Willie Nelson, Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett. 

In 1948, Eddy Grant of Equals was born.  Eddy later surfaced with a nod to his
Caribbean roots, earning a hit as a solo artist with, "Electric Avenue." 

In 1956, singer Teena Marie (Mary Christine Brockert), who rose to fame with
Motown, born in Santa Monica, California. 

In 1957, musician Mark E. Smith of The Fall was born. 

In 1958, Andy (Andrew Roy) Gibb, youngest brother of Robin, Maurice and Barry
Gibb of the Bee Gees, was born.  As a solo artist, Gibb had hits with "I Just
Want to be Your Everything," "(Love is) Thicker Than Water," "Shadow Dancing,"
"An Everlasting Love," "(Our Love) Don't Throw It All Away" and "Desire"; he
also hosted TV's "Solid Gold" music show.  He died on March 10, 1988, in
Oxford, England, of an inflammatory heart virus. 

In 1960, Elvis Presley received his discharge papers from the U.S. Army. 

In 1963, Patsy Cline, Lloyd "Cowboy" Copas, Harold F. "Hawkshaw" Hawkins and
manager Randy Hughes were killed in a light plane crash near Camden, Tennessee.
 The famous country music stars were returning to Nashville aboard Hughes'
plane after a benefit concert.  Cline, the "Queen of Country Music," was
elected to the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1973.  Actress Beverly D'Angelo
portrayed Patsy in the Sissy Spacek film "Coal Miner's Daughter," and actress
Jessica Lange played Cline in the 1985 biographical film, "Sweet Dreams," named
after one of Cline's hugely popular songs.  Willie Nelson wrote Cline's biggest
hit, "Crazy," which become a No. 1 country hit and a Top 10 pop song in
November, 1961.  Her other memorable hits include "Walkin' After Midnight," "I
Fall to Pieces," "She's Got You," "Why Can't He Be You?," "Lovesick Blues" and
"You're Stronger Than Me."

In 1965, David Bowie's early band, The Mannish Boys, released their first
single, "I Pity The Fool."  The Rolling Stones were joined by The Hollies, The
Checkmates and others for a British tour.  "For Your Love" by the Yardbirds was
released in the U.K. 

In 1968, marking the start of the "bubblegum music" era, the song "Simon Says,"
by the 1910 Fruitgum Company, sold its millionth copy.  Musician Damon Albarn
of Blur was born. 

In 1969, the music magazine "Creem" was published for the first time. 

In 1970, John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers was born. 

In 1971, "Stairway To Heaven" was played in concert for the first time at
Ulster Hall in Belfast, Northern Ireland. 

In 1973, former Jimi Hendrix manager Mike Jeffrey was among the 68 persons
killed in the crash of an Iberia Airlines DC-9 jetliner after it collided in
midair with another jetliner over France.  Singer Roberta Flack received a gold
record for "Killing Me Softly with His Song." 

In 1985, at 5:30 p.m. GMT, 5,000 radio stations worldwide broadcast the single
"We Are the World" for the first time. 

In 1994, Grace Slick was arrested for pointing a shotgun at police in her home.


////////// Today's Birthdays (born under the sign of Pisces): 

-- Actor James Noble ("Being There," "Chances Are") is 80. 
-- Actor James B. Sikking (TV's "Hill Street Blues") is 68. 
-- Actor Dean Stockwell ("Compulsion," TV's "Quantum Leap") is 66. 
-- Football player-turned-sportscaster Fred Williamson is 64. 
-- Actress Samantha Eggar ("Doctor Dolittle," "The Collector") is 63. 
-- Actor Michael Warren (TV's "Hill Street Blues") is 56. 
-- Actor Eddie Hodges ("A Hole in the Head," "Summer Magic") is 55. 
-- Singer Eddy Grant ("I Don't Wanna Dance," "Electric Avenue") is 54. 
-- Acclaimed violinist Eugene Fodor is 52. 
-- Rock musician Alan Clark (Dire Straits) is 50. 
-- Actress-comedian Marsha Warfield (TV's "Night Court") is 48. 
-- Magician Penn Jillette (Penn & Teller) is 47. 
-- Rock singer Craig Reid (The Proclaimers) is 40. 
-- Rock singer Charlie Reid (The Proclaimers) is 40. 
-- Rock musician John Frusciante (Red Hot Chili Peppers) is 32. 
-- Rhythm & Blues singer-songwriter Rome ("I Belong to You") is 32. 
-- Actor Kevin Connolly (TV's "Unhappily Ever After") is 28. 
-- Actress Jolene Blalock (TV's "Enterprise") is 27. 
-- Supermodel Niki Taylor is 27. 
-- Actor Jake Lloyd ("Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace") is 13. 

////////// Thought for Today: 

"Don't forget to love yourself."

-- Soren Kierkegaard, Danish philosopher (1813-1855) 


AP / Reuters / E! Online / Zap2it

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Chili Peppers Want To Spank You, In A Good Way
04.15.2002 9:38 PM EDT

There aren't any clever sex references in the title of the Red Hot Chili
Peppers' follow-up to Californication, but that doesn't mean the music
is without a kinky quotient.

"It's going to spank your ass ... in a good way," singer Anthony Kiedis
said Saturday at the ESPN Action Sports and Music Awards, where the band
was given the Artist Contribution Award.

By the Way, as the album will be called, was originally due in June, but
the Chili Peppers have spent more time in the studio than expected and
are now eyeing an August release date.

"We could be [done], but we're not," Kiedis said. "We just keep going. I
mean, we have enough to be done and finished, but instead we just keep
going further. Just because we don't stop. We can't stop."

Guitarist John Frusciante, who, along with Kiedis, contributed to
Tricky's 2001 sonic opus, Blowback, said much of the studio time has
been spent giving the songs multiple layers.

"It's much deeper, I would say, than the last record," Frusciante said.
"There's a lot going on, I mean, [on] some songs. When it's the right
thing, it's just the four of us playing, but there's a lot of overdubs
and a lot of work has gone into the production of it."

Longtime Red Hot Chili Peppers producer Rick Rubin is again on board for
By the Way (see "Chili Peppers Releasing Home Video, Working On New
LP"), which Kiedis described as "rich." "There isn't really a definitive
single screaming to be the first guy out of the block, but we'll find
it," he said.

While in the studio, the Chili Peppers have recorded a cover of the
Ramones' "Havana Affair" for a tribute album due this summer that will
also include Rob Zombie, Green Day, the Offspring and others (see "Rob
Zombie Helming Ramones Tribute Album").

"It doesn't sound anything like their version of it," Frusciante said.
"It sounds like a song we could have written. Johnny [Ramone] thinks
it's better than the Ramones version, but I don't agree with him on
that."

The Chili Peppers have two weeks of European festival dates scheduled
for late June, after which Kiedis said the band may play a handful of
American dates. "I imagine we're going to want to play our new songs,"
he said.

-Corey Moss

© 2002 MTV Networks. All rights reserved.

Jaime

NY POST....
Here is a complete list of winners at the 42nd annual Grammy Awards. 

What do you guys think about Daves work on RHCP's One Hot Minute?

I think that cd is great...but i dont feel like its a real chili pepper cd,
in my mind its like Californication came after Blood Sugar and then one hot
minute was just a sort of side project.

The guitar is very good though...John Frusciante is just the right peice of
the puzzle in the chili peppers though.......

I have met john and actually have a picture with me and John standing next
to each other.... its plaqued and hanging on my wall.....I LOVE Johns
stuff.....To Record Water For Only Ten Days is amazing...

I suggest everyone download the song "RAMPARTS", beautiful guitar
instrumental....proves there are still great guitarists in modern music.

Check it out!

Mark Mantle


"noc10" <steve_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vSXt8.4562$L1.460668@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>
> "RoccaforteAmps" <roccaforteamps@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020407170800.11723.00004811@mb-mq.aol.com...
> > <<Mark wrote:  but i LOVE Janes
> > >Addiction, >>
> >
> >
> > Prior to last year
> > the only song from
> > Janes Addiction I was
> > familiar with was
> > that song about shoplifting,
> > since then I bought "Kettle Whistle",
> > I love Janes Addiction,
> > one original band they are.
> > Play that CD all the time,
> > Doug
>
> Nothing Shocking has got to be their classic though. Dave Navarro is in top
> form on that one.
>
>

IN THE NEWS
RED HOT CHILI PEPPER's guitarist JOHN FRUSCIANTE will open for JANE'S
ADDICTION at their April 26th concert at the Santa Barbara Bowl in
California . . . WEEZER'S new album, due May 15th, will be titled "The
Green Album" . . . Farm Aid will return to Indianapolis on September 29th.
The benefit's co-founders, WILLIE NELSON, JOHN MELLENCAMP and NEIL YOUNG,
will all appear in this year's lineup . . . VINCE NEIL will host the fifth
annual Skylar Neil Memorial Golf Tournament on May 3rd at the Malibu
Country Club in California to raise money for research on children's
cancer, leukemia and AIDS . . . SPINAL TAP will play Carnegie Hall on July
4th as part of the Toyota Comedy Festival. The show is part of the band's
"Back From the Dead Tour," which launches June 1st in Los Angeles . . .
DWIGHT YOAKAM and LONESTAR have been added to the list of performers at
the Academy of Country Music Awards on May 9th in Los Angeles.

the only other guy besides eddie, who does it for me is john frusciante
of the chili peppers. he joined the band at 18, quit at 22, got involved
in a terrible heroin addiction for almost 6 years and is back with the
band. bloodsugarsexmagik is the best album i've ever heard and john was
a big reason for that. john was a big classic era VH fan growing up. he
went to audition for frank zappa's band at age 16 but chickened out at
the last minute. he and flea have an amazing connection and they're
amazing to watch, live.


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To: ALLMUSIC%AUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Chili Peppers

>       Can anybody recommend another Chili Peppers album. I have Blood Sugar
>Sex Magik and it has quickly become one of my favorite CD's. Is Mother's
>Milk any good? Just curious- tuning up for Lollapalooza '92.
>
>
>                                                   Chris

I dont know all their albums yet but Freaky Styley was a great one. It was
also produced by the great funkster George Clinton so it is mega funky.
Mothers Milk is great until you hear Blood Sugar Sex Magik, which is when you
begin to see that the band hadn't really gelled yet. Also John's guitar
playing is lacking confidence and is too distorted and busy to really
support the music as he did so absolutely brilliantly on Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

Also does anybody have any news on what has happened with John Frusciante, last
I heard he was locked up in a mental institution. This seems pretty far out
so if someone has any real news it would be greatly appreciated because they
are finally going to come down here and tour the shows they cancelled when John
left.

Mark

Karin Wrote:

> Bad News Chili Peppers's Fans
>
> I just heard the John is leaving the band.  Its
> not permanent yet and the Lallapalooze Tour seems
> to be going ahead has planned.
> Thats all I know.  When I hear more I'll pass it on.

John Frusciante left The Red Hot Chili Peppers after there Japanese tour.
Apparently he had been threatening to quit for the last few weeks but nobody
took him seriously. The day the band were to fly out to Australia to start
a tour, John instead quit the band and flew home. The rest of the band sent
home for a replacement (I can't remember his name off-hand) and set about
rehearsing. I guess they were pretty keen to tour Australia as they currently
have the Number one single (Under the bridge), a top five album (Blood ...),
as well as having Mother's Milk in the charts.

Unfortunately, to quote Antony Keidis, "We didn't feel we could make the shows
a magical, religious experience", hence they postponed the Australian tour to
October, and went back home (to rehearse for Lollapoloza, I suspect).

From: Lili2 (lili2@aol.com)
Subject: Strange bedfellows pay tribute to the Ramones on new cd 

This is the only article in this thread 

NY DAILY  NEWS

By JIM FARBER
DAILY NEWS MUSIC COLUMNIST 
 
 
There probably aren't many things Tom Waits and Marilyn Manson can agree on.
You'll find even less to connect Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder and Kiss.

But one unifying feature for all of them, apparently, is an undying love for
the one-too-tree-faw!! punk anthems of the Ramones.

All the aforementioned stars appear on "We're a Happy Family," a new tribute CD
to the leather-clad, three-chord pioneers. The 17-song album, which hits stores
Tuesday, gives a range of musicians - from a sensitive singer-songwriter such
as Pete Yorn to a metal lout like Rob Zombie - a fresh crack at the Ramones'
canon.

For guitarist and surviving member Johnny Ramone (formerly John Cummings), the
admittedly overused "tribute album" format has special value.

"If you're a huge band that everybody knows already, then maybe a tribute isn't
relevant," he explains. "But in our case, it could bring in people who hadn't
really heard much from us."

And that's plenty of people. As with lots of cult legends - from Velvet
Underground to Gram Parsons - many more people have heard of the Ramones than
have actually heard them. The family project is even more welcome now that the
band itself can never play again, following the deaths of singer Joey Ramone
(Jeffrey Hyman) on Easter Sunday 2001, from lymphoma, and bassist Dee Dee
(Douglas Colvin) last June, from an apparent drug overdose.

The album gives listeners two routes into the band. Roughly half the tracks
find current, popular bands fetishistically re-creating the Ramones'
high-concept style. On the other half, artists radically reinterpret the band's
songs, illuminating the material free from the Ramones' rigid image and
confining style.

"Some groups [like Green Day or the Offspring] have the Ramones sound anyway,
so why should they change the song?" Johnny reasons. "Others wanted to do it
their own way. I think both are valid."

One radical rethink comes from the Pretenders' Chrissie Hynde. She recast
"Something to Believe In" from a typically charging Ramones track to a slow,
grand ballad.

"The song was just a throwaway when we did it," Johnny says. "But the way she
did it is beautiful."

Tom Waits' take on "The Return Of Jack & Judy" sounds more pukeish than
punkish, making inspired use of Waits' patented garbage dump of sounds.

Perhaps the most controversial participant on the album is Kiss, which covers
"Do You Remember Rock 'n' Roll Radio."

Johnny admits, "Some people involved in the project didn't want them on there."

Historians will recall that Kiss members were foes of the early CBGB scene,
which gave birth to the Ramones. 

"When they were starting out, the CBGB bands were getting all the praise and
nobody was taking Kiss seriously at all," Johnny explains. "But does that sort
of stuff really matter now?"

In fact, Johnny believes the Kiss version is one of the strongest tracks on the
album. He originally wanted Bruce Springsteen to do the song, but the Boss'
managers never got back to him. Another artist who got away was Chris Cornell,
who expressed interest in the project, says Johnny, but never followed through.


Though Johnny got to pick the bands that participated, the idea for the album
began with Seymour Stein, who signed the Ramones to his Sire Records in 1975.

Johnny brought along two powerful friends to help solicit stars for the
project: Rob Zombie and Eddie Vedder. The latter inducted the Ramones into the
Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, and has became a close friend of Johnny's.
Here, Vedder performs earnest versions of "I Believe in Miracles" and "Dangers
of Love."

Johnny wanted to put one new band on the album. He came up with Rooney, who
performs "Here Today, Gone Tomorrow." The group's first album won't come out
for another three months. "I insisted that we give a band a break," Johnny
says.

The album features an uncredited track at the end, fronted by the Chili
Peppers' guitarist John Frusciante.

"He wanted it to be a hidden track, but he also wanted me to tell everyone it's
him," says Johnny with a laugh.

Mood swings

Johnny believes Joey Ramone probably would have tried to argue him out of
including some bands, though he won't say which ones. While Dee Dee was still
alive when the album was coming together, Johnny says his input "wasn't up for
discussion. I have to be in charge. Otherwise it would be something else."

Johnny doesn't sugarcoat Dee Dee's famously troubled life. "He was a crazy
guy," he says. "He had mood swings. It was never easy to hang out with Dee Dee.
When CJ [Christopher Joseph Ward] came into the band [as Dee Dee's replacement
in 1989], then we had a normal guy you could reason with."

The Ramones broke up in 1996, and while Johnny says he never expected the band
to launch a formal reunion, he had fantasies about one day bringing off a
fleeting, well-paid show in South America. That notion ended with Joey's death.

Other than working on the "Family" project and a new feature-film documentary
about the Ramones, Johnny considers himself retired these days. At 51, he's
happy to spend his time going to dinner with friends and attending the
occasional ball game. He says he achieved all he wanted to with the Ramones,
and feels confident about its legacy, which the tribute album can only enhance.

"The Ramones will always live," says Johnny. "Twenty years from now, some kid
will listen to our records the same way I listened to Eddie Cochran, Gene
Vincent and Buddy Holly when I was a kid. Once you've made your mark, it never
goes away."

Search Result 602

word. john burned his mansion down, has burns and absesses scars up and
down his arms. lost his teeth and had painful teeth implant surgery,
which caused him to speak with a noticable lisp for awhile. all kinds of
nasty shit that destroyed is body and spirit and practically killed him.
he's made a remarkable comeback but paid a big price.


         
dreibel@idirect.com (Daniel?L.?Dreibelbis) 
??????Less sarcastically, you can actually ask John
Frusciante how fun it is to be on heroin. How fun it is to lose your
house, your instruments and your teeth to feed your Chinese Rock habit.

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>From: mcsad1@aol.com  (Mcsad1) 
>I"m seriously thinkinbg about going to this concert . has anybody in here
>seen these bands live. how are they ?how long tdo they play? and do they vary
>their setlists much?

wallofsound.com review

http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/redhotchilipeppers032700.html

March 27, 2000     

Foos Outshine Peppers on Opening Night 
 
MINNEAPOLIS - For the Red Hot Chili Peppers, big shows are old hat.
Lollapalooza, Woodstocks '94 and '99 - you name it. But it was the first
arena tour for the Foo Fighters. So how did the Foos outshine the Peppers
Friday at the sold-out Target Center on the opening night of their joint tour? 

"This is our first-ever arena concert, sort of," said Foos frontman Dave Grohl,
explaining that the band had played multi-act radio-sponsored shows in arenas.
"I even got dressed up for the first day on the job. I wanted to make a good
impression." 

With his thin white tie, red dress shirt, and black jeans, Grohl recalled Billy
Joel in his new-wave phase. But his long black sideburns, overlong bangs, and
hunched-over-the-mic posture suggested a younger Neil Young. In any case,
singer-guitarist Grohl rocked the house with his high-energy buzz-saw pop,
which ebbed and flowed like waves smacking up against the shoreline, with fans
riding the wild surf. It doesn't matter who the band's second guitarist is -
at the moment, it's Chris Shiflett, formerly of 22 Jacks and No Use for a Name
- because the Foo Fighters create the most effective noise-pop guitar tension
since the Breeders. 

"Big Me," given a nearly unplugged treatment, was, well, big fun, as were
"Everlong," "I'll Stick Around," and the frenetic "This Is a Call." Grohl
called for "Ixnay on the ogfay" (the stage fog), but he made it clear that he
was having a good time by belching twice in mid-song during the performance -
it almost sounded musical. 

But if the Foos seemed particularly pumped, the Peppers seemed remarkably
blasé. Lead singer Anthony Kiedis had a sore throat, announcing in mid-set
that he might not make it through the performance. "I'll do my best, but I've
got about half a voice left," he said. 

His singing was occasionally flat and largely uninspired during the oddly paced
75-minute set, which seemed to be filled as much with softer sounds (including
the hits "Under the Bridge" and "Scar Tissue") as with the frat-funk-punk tunes
that made the Peppers a hip club attraction 15 years ago. It fell to Flea, with
his manic physicality and adventurously jazzy bass jams, to provide the flava. 

With guitarist John Frusciante back on board, the set drew heavily from the
current Californication, as well as from 1991's commercial breakthrough Blood
Sugar Sex Magik. Highlights included the swinging "I Like Dirt" and the current
poppy hit "Otherside." 

Even though the Peppers have been known for their outrageous stage getups, this
was essentially a no-frills presentation, save for several video monitors
suspended over the stage, broadcasting live video action. At the end of the
show, the house lights came on for a moment before the arena went dark again as
fans cheered. But the lights came back on, denying the 15,000 faithful a second
encore, further evidence that the Peppers didn't have all the necessary
ingredients for opening night. - Jon Bream

++++++++++++

Sonicnet.com review 

http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?genreNameForDisplay=Rock&genreDir
ectoryName=rock&id=820168

Foo Fighters Tough Act To Follow For Chili Peppers

MADISON, Wis. - Funk-rockers the Red Hot Chili Peppers were ragged but
energetic Saturday, during the second show of their 54-date North American
tour, while openers Foo Fighters offered a tight, powerful hour of melodic rock
for nearly 10,000 fans.

If the mosh pit was any indication, the Chili Peppers might want to think about
trading spots with the Foo Fighters. The crowd on the floor of the sold-out
Dane County Expo Center ebbed and flowed in front of the stage for the duration
of Foo Fighters' set, but it took the Chili Peppers a few songs and some
crowd-baiting to get a mosh pit of their own going. 

After the Chili Peppers opened with "Around the World" from their 1999
double-platinum album, Californication, and "Give It Away," from their 1991 pop
breakthrough, Bloodsugarsexmagik, bassist Flea (born Michael Balzary) chanted
"I'm a Badger, he's a Badger, she's a Badger, wouldn't you like to be a Badger,
too?"

It was the band's second reference to the University of Wisconsin-Madison
Badgers' defeat of Purdue University in the NCAA men's basketball tournament
earlier that evening. After "Around the World," lead singer Anthony Kiedis
asked the crowd, "Is there a Badger in the house?"

With that, the band launched into its recent radio hit "Scar Tissue"  and "Suck
My Kiss" , which got the crowd moving a little too intensely for Flea. The
shirtless bassist said he saw a man in the crowd grope a woman who was crowd
surfing. He suggested the man "stop buying our records and stop coming to our
concerts. That's lame, that's cowardly and I'm embarrassed to be a part of it."

The comment recalled the Chili Peppers' closing set at Woodstock '99, a
three-day festival that was marred by reports of sexual assaults. At that show,
Flea said, "Hey, you know, just because a girl out there wants to feel free and
take her shirt off doesn't mean a bunch of ya have to go grabbin' her t-ts and
stuff."


During the Chili Peppers' 80-minute set, Kiedis, wearing the same red-and-black
Chili Peppers basketball jersey and shorts that were for sale at the
merchandise stands in the lobby, anchored himself with the mic stand as he
moved around center-stage. Flea and guitarist John Frusciante hopped and ran
around each other during many songs.

While the Chili Peppers' energy couldn't be denied, they occasionally sounded
sloppy. Frusciante's guitar solos were sometimes out of tune, and his singing
was frequently flat, which seemed to throw Kiedis off when the two were singing
in unison, as on "Scar Tissue."

"Flea seemed like the only one who was really on tonight," fan Carmen Wolfe,
24, of Madison said. "The Chili Peppers were kind of lame, but the Foo Fighters
really rocked."

Grohl And Co. Steal The Show

Foo Fighters opened with "Monkey Wrench," from their 1997 album, The Colour and
the Shape. The song got the crowd moshing so furiously that lead
singer/guitarist Dave Grohl asked everyone to "stand still" after the band's
second song, its recent hit "Learn to Fly."

"My Hero" began with Grohl, the former Nirvana drummer, banging on a floor-tom
before playing the song's opening guitar riff. Wearing tight black jeans, a
bright red shirt and a skinny white tie, Grohl looked like an early '80s
new-waver, and ran back and forth across the stage when he wasn't singing.

Grohl told the crowd he was going to do a "mellow number for all the people
getting their asses kicked" in front of the stage, before beginning "Everlong."
After "Stacked Actors"  and "Aurora," from the 1999 album There Is Nothing Left
to Lose, Grohl began picking out the guitar riff to hard-rock band Van Halen's
"Ain't Talkin' Bout Love."

After claiming "we really don't know any Van Halen songs," Grohl and Foo
Fighters ended their set with "This Is a Call," from the band's 1995
self-titled debut album.

Faced with the unenviable chore of opening for two arena-size acts, the
three-piece English band Muse got the crowd moshing from its first crashing
guitar chord. Frontman Matthew Bellamy mixed the vocal range and power of late
singer/songwriter Jeff Buckley with manic punk energy, while the band
emphasized the latter part of the Radiohead-meets-Nirvana sound of its debut
album, Showbiz (1999).

"I had never heard of them," Danny Klingbeil, of Madison said. "But they really
kick ass." 

[ Mon., March 27, 2000 7:07 PM EST ]

I have to say, tho I think Trey does some great Hendrix covers, Stevie Ray
Vaughn was the MAN.  I was just listening to him playing Voodoo Child --
shocked my brain.  Who else plays Jimi as well (other than, uh, Jimi)?<<

SRV certainly got a lot from Hendrix, but I don't think he was a "Hendrix
interpreter"...he had too much swing.
I know this might sound weird, but I really think John Frusciante is a great
Hendrix "interpreter"...tone and all.  Probably a far cry from the greatest
though.
There are literally thousands of guitarists out there that are Hendrix
imitators, and there are thousands that are SRV imitators (Kenny Wayne Shepherd
is a well-known one)...since there are dedicated schools of both players, that
certainly proves that SRV wasn't an imitator at all.  He was very much his own
voice with obvious influences that showed up in his playing.
-John
"Tuesday's no good for me for a flag burning, but there 
will always be more flags to burn and more reasons to burn them"-Nobody
"We wish not to learn and we hate what we don't understand"-Riverbottom
Nightmare Band

John Stanley <v6chev@home.com> wrote in message
news:3814152e.4704687@news...
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:38:56 -0700, "Steve"
> <stevez@intergate.bc.ca.eh?> wrote:
>
> >"pompetous" (sp?)
> >Ya know, Steve Miller, the Joker
> >"Cuz I speak, of the pompetous of love"
> >Stevie Z
>
>
> yeah, speaking of weird lyrics. THat new CHili
> Peppers' song has a most unintellible chorus.
> "Ya blerb n ferb in a lonely bew"
>
> well that's what I got out of it.
>
> js

"With the birds I share this lonely view"

Awesome album, IMO. John Frusciante is a new addition to my favorites list.
Now there's a guy who understands feeling and great tone.

Rob

I think BucketHead is John Frusciante from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Watch
the guitar solo in the scar tissue video and then look at any Buckethead
picture or video. If it's anyone famous...it's Frusciante!

Heard rumor on the radio this morning:

Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.

Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu

In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>Heard rumor on the radio this morning:
>
>Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
>has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
>this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.
>
>Mark Schnitzius
>schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu


I was just reading through my morning paper when I came across the report.
According to the Associated Press, John Frusciante has quit the Red Hot
Chili Peppers. The report gives no reasons for the departure, stating only
that it came in the middle of a tour of Japan. Apparently, the RHCP have
canceled the rest of that tour, and flown in a new guitarist for rehearsals.
The split came about last week and the rehearsals started last Friday,
so I'm surprised it took a week for the information to get here. This
could really hurt the Lollapalooza tour.


Arthur Bohren

In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:

   Heard rumor on the radio this morning:

   Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
   has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
   this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.


 I heard the same rumour from MTV but they said that RHCP are going to do
 Lollapalooza II tour with a new guitarist (when they find a new one is a
 different thing)


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In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>Heard rumor on the radio this morning:
>
>Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
>has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
>this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.
>
>

Yeah! i heard he walked off in the middle of a set in japan or something.
I think he stunk. The several times I saw him play, he was too wasted
to get a decent sound out of his axe. Did you see him goof on SNL?
It IS a shame if it screws up their Lollapaloozing......


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Chris Greacen
greacen@bucrsb.bu.edu

greacen@bucrsb.bu.edu (Chris Greacen) writes:

>In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>>Heard rumor on the radio this morning:
>>
>>Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
>>has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
>>this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.
>>
>> 
>Yeah! i heard he walked off in the middle of a set in japan or something.
>I think he stunk. The several times I saw him play, he was too wasted
>to get a decent sound out of his axe. Did you see him goof on SNL?
>It IS a shame if it screws up their Lollapaloozing......


>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Chris Greacen
>greacen@bucrsb.bu.edu

Yes, I heard this rumor on the radio too. They also mentioned that the
Red Hot Chili Peppers did send over another stand-in guitarist from the
states but they didn't tell who that was. Anyway the repetitions with 
this guitarist weren't very satisfactory and would take some more time
to go on with the concerts. They also told that the Japanese and the
coming australian tour were canceled because of it.

John Schavemaker
schavema@fwi.uva.nl

In article <1992May20.105153.1755@fwi.uva.nl> schavema@fwi.uva.nl (John Schavemaker) writes:
>In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>>Heard rumor on the radio this morning:
>>
>>Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
>>has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
>>this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, I heard this rumor on the radio too. They also mentioned that the
>Red Hot Chili Peppers did send over another stand-in guitarist from the
>states but they didn't tell who that was. Anyway the repetitions with 
>this guitarist weren't very satisfactory and would take some more time
>to go on with the concerts. They also told that the Japanese and the
>coming australian tour were canceled because of it.

Apparently, it was Zander Schloss (ex Circle Jerks, etc) who went to Oz from
the states for rehearsals. They obviously didn't gel very well (thank god - I'd
hate to think of good ol' Zander as a Chili Pepper!).


dave ellam
dme@cs.nott.ac.uk

greacen@bucrsb.bu.edu (Chris Greacen) writes:

>In article <schnitzi.705846551@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>>Heard rumor on the radio this morning:
>>
>>Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante (sp?)
>>has been kicked out of the band.  Can anyone confirm
>>this?  With Lollapalooza II on the way, too!  Bummer.
>>
>> 
>Yeah! i heard he walked off in the middle of a set in japan or something.
>I think he stunk. The several times I saw him play, he was too wasted
>to get a decent sound out of his axe. Did you see him goof on SNL?
>It IS a shame if it screws up their Lollapaloozing......

Great thing he left !!
Although being quite alright on the Peppers' albums, John Frusciante
sucks big time playing live ! I've seen him twice here in Holland, and
both times his performance wasn't any good. Especially in Rotterdam last
February, where he tried to copy as few licks from the album as
possible, and was totally uninspired. This goes for the other members
too, 'cos their performance that night was nothing but routine. They did
a "jam" on Yertle the Turtle which appeared to be improvised, but the
EXACT jam had been broadcast on Dutch TV when they played in a studio
about a year and a half before.
Rollins beat the f**k out of the Peppers that night !
So, with the Peppers going gradually downhill, it's only a good thing
Frusciante left

All hail to the new king in town ! (definitely Primus, although not
new)


>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Chris Greacen
>greacen@bucrsb.bu.edu

From article <27p6do$f0@hunter-08.cs.strath.ac.uk>, by mbate@cs.strath.ac.uk (Martin P Bate CS90):
> PS SO dissapointed to hear about Dave Navarro joining the Chili Peppers - not
> that I hate the Chili Peppers but John Frusciante was PERFECT for them and I
> don't think Dave is!!

 I have to agree with you that John was probably the best Chili
guitarist and a very important part of the song-writing process, but he
LEFT.  I think it was a nervious break-down.  It was pretty sad to see him
break down in the course of 6 months.  When I saw them in October of 91,
they were all having a good time.  On SNL, John seemed *really* out of it,
and in interviews I read with him didn't sound much better.  

 I'm just hoping that when people are making comments like John not
being in RHCP anymore, they know it was because he quit and not because
Anthony, Flea, and Chad kicked him out (like they obviously did the last
two (if you could count Tobais's stint)).

 As for Navarro, I'll be interested in seeing what his influence
does to the band....

 TTYL
 Chris

FORMER CHILI PEPPER FRUSCIANTE DELIVERS INSPIRED COMEBACK SHOW
Duo Performance With Bob Forrest In L.A. Packs House

    Supportive and well- wishing friends packed the Hollywood
   hangout bar Small's Thursday night (Feb. 6) to witness the first
   public performance by former Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John
   Frusciante since his much- talked about harrowing battle with heroin
   addiction. For his coming- out, Frusciante teamed (as reported first
   in allstar) with longtime friend Bob Forrest (Thelonious Monster) in
   a ferocious acoustic set that ultimately served as a valiant attempt
   to strum his demons away. Among those in attendance was Fishbone
   frontman Angelo Moore, who joined the duo late in the set for an
   inspired finale of "Helter Skelter."
      Most of the audience looked on hopefully as Frusciante, whose stint
   in the Chili Peppers coincided with their creative and commercial
   peaks a couple of years ago before repeated drug- related
   transgressions forced him out, displayed an impressive proficiency on
   guitar. He and Forrest delivered a dramatic set that ultimately proved
   inspiring to the sympathetic fans in attendance, and included acoustic
   renditions of the Peppers' "Under the Bridge," Stevie Nicks'
   "Landslide," and several original songs the two have written together.
   Chili Peppers bassist Flea was strongly rumored to have appeared on
   this night, but did not show up.
      Look for Frusciante and Forrest to perform a more publicized show
   at L.A.'s famed Whisky in late February.
  
                                                          - Kiino Villand
                                            - video by [30]Kiino Villand
                                                                        
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<!--StartFragment-->An interesting short article in the January Guitar Player magazine on John
Frusciante, former guitarist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers.  His new album
contains a long piece with a backwards guitar solo that he hired somebody to
transcribe for string quartet.  He tells how the transcriber would write out
pages full of 7/8, 13/16 etc only to be rebuked by John that the whole piece
was in 4/4.  John had to explain to him "You count 'One'...wait about thirty
seconds...count 'two'...wait thirty seconds..."  Sounds like John should
team up with Sonic Boom and/or Can. (-8

tone:

clean - john frusciante. very rustic, wiry, trebly, and in your face.
dirty - i just can't explain it.

effects: just a wah. wackin it every beat.

Rob Adelman <radelman@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3E9E2498.F42B1E2E@mn.rr.com>
.
..
> WBRW wrote:
> > 
> > My vote:
> > 
> > Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication
> > 
> > ...Enough said!
> 
> Funny you should mention that. Last week when we were talking about
> recording with air, I happened to hear a cut off that album on the way
> home from work. I was thinking, "man, talk about lack of air". Those
> things are choked to death".

what about "One Hot Minute"!? i'm not commenting on the sonics of the
record, but if ever there was a time when a producer (don't get me
wrong, i think Rick Rubin is the shit) needed to step-in and weigh a
little more heavily on a group of artists it was then. i'd say that
record counts to me as 'bad production'. i mean, they even let FLEA
sing a song!!! there was a confused band with all kinds of troubles.

"Blood Sugar Sex Magic" is one of my favorite records though. very
organic throughout.

incidentally, i bought "Californication" the day it came out (i'm big
John Frusciante fan and i was excited to hear the new stuff) and i put
it in at the studio and damned if it wasn't just clipping all over the
place. i thought surely something was amiss in the studio, but i
realized it was indeed coming from the mastered disc.
it just so happened that there was an A&R from warner at the studio
that day and i heard her telling someone about how the band (or
somebody in their camp) wanted the CDs REALLY hot and they kept
pushing it in mastering and pushing it. she said that the band was
able to get it past the normal "quality control" at warner because
they were overdue for a release and they had a good bit of pull with
the label by then.
of course, there's never a recall in cases like this...just the usual
"well if they complain we'll give 'em a new one" policy in effect.

i heard some outrageous figures of how many Michael Jackson "Thriller"
LPs were knowingly shipped defective. they didn't care...they just
wanted to pump out enough units to meet the demand...oh well, such is
life...i'm sure most people didn't even notice.

What I say: Nice voice, too bad he died, he was 34.

I noticed that Jerry Cantrell still is living, and releasing CD's.I also noticed the other well
known drug addict from Stone Temple Pilots, Scott Weiland, is still alive, singing,  and most
likely sober. And although kind of  of fucked up from the experience, the Chili Pepper's John
Frusciante is alive, playing and also seems to be sober.

IMO Drugs seem to kill those who want to be dead. Oh then again,  it might take a while too, as
in the case of Jerry Garcia......or forever as is the case of Keefe, or partially and quite
comically as is the case with Ozzy, or they pay the price while alive as with Ed Van Halen,
whose alcoholism and smoking have manifested as destroyed hips and a cancerous mouth.....

It is hardly ever a surprise, more of an moment of realization of when, where and from
what.............


Nate






"Jeff, TASCAM Guy" wrote:

> egghd@aol.com (EggHd) wrote in message news:<20020420193942.04415.00007589@mb-fi.aol.com>...
> > I'm sure you have heard that he was found dead last night.  He was 34.
> >
>
> Yeah...heard it over the weekend. Not surprised, knowing the stories
> of his addiction well. But rather saddened. I liked his voice a lot... 

What about the deft use of the 'Tron on Free Bird by Skynyrd and 
Aerosmith's Dream On?
 
Also, speaking of prog references but off topic, the new Guitar 
Player interview with the Red Hot Chili Pepper's former 
Heroin-addicted guitarist John Frusciante cites Steve Howe's 
guitar playing in Siberian Khatru as an inspiration for some 
noodling he does on the Chili's new album.
 
 

In article <7n2u4l$cof$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>,
  <dwgjd@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I find it very difficult to imagine that any good musician can perform well
> on acid, crack, or any other hard drug.  Especially psychedelics like
acid.
   <SNIP>
> But I'd welcome any thoughts from others out there who perform
> in decent bands while tripping, etc.

Okay.  I'll rise to your challenge ;)

For a GREAT example of a tripping band putting on a phenomenal LIVE
performance check out the Dead (surprise!) 8/27/72 Springfield Creamery
Benefit.  They were all very dosed (from all accounts of the show) and
proceeded to perform at a "higher" level.  Still a benchmark for most
other '72s.

For a great example of somebody completely out of his gourd on heroin
in a studio setting see John Frusciante's "Niandra Lades and Usually
Just a T-Shirt".  "4-track" recording quality, but the performance and
sheer feeling of the material makes one overlook that.  Also contains
the best backwards guitar parts EVER.  Better backwards guitar than
what Hendrix or the Beatles did.  IMHO, of course!

Just for my $.02 on the whole Phish/drugs topic, why should anyone care
what Phish does in the way of recreational chemicals?  It's none of our
business.  Sure, I'd prefer that they DON'T do things that tend to
shorten one's life span, but it's THEIR lives, not ours.  Shit, these
guys go out on tour, have their lives documented almost every step of
the way (via setlists and documentaries being filmed...interviews and
so forth) and NOBODY has gotten busted for ANYTHING...yet.  What does
that tell you?  That *IF* they do anything, they want it kept secret
and are very careful in keeping it low key.  Garcia didn't give a shit
who knew what he did and he got busted on a semi-irregular basis.

Ah well...sorry for the rambling.  See you all at Shoreline!
.ben.



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God, I have so many favorite solos.  But for now, I'll choose one of my
favorites solely for the reason that I highly doubt anyone else will
mention it:  John Frusciante from the Red Hot Chili Peppers on "I Could
Have Lied," off of Blood Sugar Sex Majik.  It knocks me out every time --
not very technical, but so full of emotion...



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In article <brianb-0901951053510001@dynamic10.starlight.com>, brianb@starlight.com (Brian Bulkowski) writes:

> Yeah, well, all this talk about times like 3/4 and 4/4 has me pretty
> amused. Over the last few years I've been listening to, dancing to, and
> playing a little balkan/greek/turkish music, and they just think about
> time differently. In plenty of places, pauses are just stuck in, like you
> say, little 3/16 add-ons. In their system, you think of a beat as a
> grouping of 2 or 3 beats.

But that's probably an understood potion of that tradition and culturally they
might be fine dancing to that and not much else like most americans can't dance
in anything but 4/4 or the occaisional 3/4.  [Just a wild guess.  Correct me if
I'm wrong, tho, 'cause I'd like to hear about it]

> My bandmate wrote a wonderful section of a tune in ... 23/8? It's split
> like: ... 2 2 3, 2 3, 2 2 3, 2 2, a very infectious rythm.

Anybody see that John Frusciante interview in Guitar Player where he was
talking about transcribing one of his pieces where a single beat would be 30
seconds and it could all be notated in 4/4?

> There's lots of tricks in them there musicians. I don't know much about
> african rythms, but I figure in a few years I'll get around to studying
> that.

The real trouble with African rhythms is that the standard western art music
notation is not remotely designed to describe them and using standard notation
is a compromise at best.
A cool book on this sort of thing is "Music Grooves" by Steven Feld and Charles
Kiel (as best I can remember the names) which talks a lot about this sort of
thing.  It also takes note of one anthropologist physically measuring time
discrepencies in various musical traditions to show that there are inherent
grooves in the music.  The discrepencies are essential, it would seem.  Also,
performers are identifiable by such qualities.  Unintentional vibrato for
singers, microtonality in slide guitar players, and such, tend to have
identifiable paterns for players.  This is all kind of fringe stuff to most
people, but I'm just knocked out by it.  The book is academically oriented, but
well worth a bit of mental gymnastics for the ideas.
j.p.

HEY YOU COME ON DOWN! YOU'RE A GLYCERINE CLOWN! WE'LL SHOW YOU AROUND!!
Show you around!

actually, that's from a john frusciante song i'm listening to right now
(untitled 7, i think). there's this part in the beginning where john
yells that at the top of his lungs.

later,
  hentai

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my dixie wrecked
check out my skate page at http://tiatrus.home.texas.net

Totally agree on the RHCP disc - absolutely superb.  Needs playing very
loud.

Have you seen the 'before and after' photos of John Frusciante in this
month's Q magazine?  Frightening.  Just say no, kids....

Looking forward to the new Gomez and Supergrass discs.  Both out within a
few weeks ;)

Gary

Steve Cobham <steve@XSPAMguitarsMAPSX.powernet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37d2a9f4.3238766@news.powernet.co.uk...
> Just thought I'd mention a couple of albums that can't seem to stay
> out of the CD drawer.
>
> Richard Thompson - "Mock Tudor". A real return to form and his best,
> in my opinion, since "Across A Crowded Room".
>
> RHCP - "Californication". Great to see John Frusciante back in the
> fold. To these ears, he's the one guitarist today who keeps the
> Hendrix flame burning whilst injecting - no pun intended - a lot of
> himself in there.
>
> I must mention a tape that Gary Ames let me have on loan. It's Cream
> from November 1966 at Klook's Kleek.
>
> Clapton is simply breathtaking.
>
> The opening number, "Steppin' Out" has some beautiful guitar on it.
> I've never heard him play as inventively before or since. Yes, there's
> a lot of playing pentatonic box licks, but he puts in some almost
> jazzy links between them and shows what he's capable of.
>
>  And aggressive? He really plays as if he means it.
>
> You were so good, Eric.........
>
> Steve.
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> I've read a lot of recent posts of people saying how he's a good guitarist.
> Does anyone have his solo CD?  It was reviewed in my colleges newspaper and
> only got two stars.  However, it seems interesting because some text
> released with the CD apparently said how its about spiritual and astral
> interactoins that John had between 92 and 97 (the intense heroine years I'm
> guessing).  So anyways, is this CD worth getting?  How is the musicianship?
>
> Mike
>
>

i highly recommend getting "niandra ladies and usually just a tshirt" first.
it is definitly an acquired taste though. i didnt like it until about the
50th time i heard it and now it is one of my all time favorite albulms by a
solo artist. it sounds nothing like the RHCP, but more like a guy painfully
addicted to smack pouring his heart out to the world. i think that John was
really struggling with his voice, which on the surface sounds like shit, but
if you have patience, you can appreciate what he is writng, or trying to get
his voice to sound like. Niandra ladies has alot of very rough sounding
tracks, but lacks nothing in the emotion department. Yes he was obviously
fucked up, but he was not lazy in the sense that the tracks are diverse
sounding, and several different instruments were used other than a guitar.
you will find that some of Frusciante's over dubbed guitar tracks is some of
the most exploratory work since the psycadellica days of the late sixties
and early seventies. i personally think the man is a genius and he was one
of my favorites, if not my fav, until i got hooked on some red-headed dude
from Burlington who rewrote everything i thought i knew about the guitar. As
for the new album, it didnt tickle my fancy immediatley, but some of the
songs have really grown on me and have reminded me to stay patient and quit
being so instantaneously judgemental. the difference between it and his
first two, besides the lack of heroin influence, is that John used an
electronic beat machine on the new one. this gives the album a very "80's"
feel to it at first, whereas the first two were mainly acoustic/electric
overdubbs, with alot of heartfelt/fucked up lyrics. maybe thats why i like
the first two so much, they are sooo rough and nasty sounding, as opposed to
the newer, more polished sounding album. either way, i recommend getting
them all, and if anyone is interested, just email me, i will B&P them all
for ya. i wish more people listened to john frusciante because IMHO he is
one of the most inventive guitar players of this generation, and if you take
me up on the b&p, im sure you will agree.
8^ )
whatever you do,
take care of your shoes.
robbie

[From "Guitar Player"]
"From the Germs, John [Frusciante] graduated to Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck
and Jimi Hendrix, tackled the almighty barre chord and blues scale,
and began pursuing increasingly complicated rock like King Crimson,
Yes, early Genesis and Frank Zappa, whose work he'd study for hours,
learning solos and syncopations in detail. Captain Beefheart, the
Residents and other out-rock prophets became John's pantheon, and by
17 he'd dropped out of high school and moved to Los Angeles, where he
and a friend figured out a way to punch in for classes at G.I.T.
without actually attending in order to appease their parents' desire
that they get an education. He even showed up at a Zappa audition,
only to leave the rehearsal room before stepping up to the plate. Cold
feet? "Nah. I realized that I wanted to be a rock star, do drugs and
get girls, and that I wouldn't be able to do that if I was in Zappa's
band." 

No jokes about that last sentence please :-) Seriously, John
Frusciante must have gone through horrible times according to the
article:

http://www.guitarplayer.com/archive/artists/fruscnte.htm

Regards
Franz Fuchs
-- 
franz.fuchs@magnet.at

well, im a HUGE RHCP and Frusciante's solo work fan, but today i came across an
mp3 or John Frusciante Live.  It was in January of 1997 just before he kicked
heroin and it was his first show at the Viper Room since his best friend (River
Phoenix) died there.  The whole show is very emotional and i have an mp3 here
of the clip i am talking about: http://www.fracasos.com/jf/8_Unt8.mp3

at the end, before John covers Landslide he says "Im gonna do this one, its a
cover song, some fucking assholes are playing it now, i decided to cover it
before i heard their version and it just disgraces it".  John sounded stoned
during this show, but if anyone wants the whole show, they can find it at
http://www.fracasos.com/jf/

John's solo stuff is very heroin induced and he speaks from his heart, some of
you may like it.  So does anyone know of John hating The Smashing Pumpkins or
The Chili Peppers not liking Billy or something?  Thanks
Jeff Hartman

Chang-Eun Cha wrote:
> 
> Hey, the RHCP is not  about choir boy vocals or Jon  Anderson.  It's about
> belting the funk and the blues, man.  It's gotta be gritty.  Otherwise, it
> ain't got no soul, brotha.
> 
>                         -John


I can't find my original posting anymore, but as far as I remember you 
totally missed the point.

You're right, the RHCP is not about choir boy vocals or Jon  Anderson.  
It's indeed about belting the funk and the blues. I love the Peppers. 
They kick ass and there's nothing wrong with the vocals. But John 
Frusciante is NOT singing on their albums. He's only doing some backings.

What I was talking about was his solo-album, called something like 
"Niandra Lads and usually just a T-shirt". And I said that I did not 
dislike the MUSIC, but that his SINGING was awfull.

I do not know if you once heard this solo album, but it has nothing to do 
with the music he played with the Peppers. And I would appreciate it if 
you give it a listen and let me know what You like about John's "singing" 
on this album.

One last thing: don't be offended too easily. Sometimes it helps if you 
carefully READ what you're reacting to.

With Regards,

Paul
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Although this is very off topic, I hope some people would be happy to know
that John Frusciante's first solo CD is being re-released in August.

This was John Frusciante's first album after leaving the red hot chili
peppers, this is a very good experimental guitar album.  I would advice
people to look out for it now that it has been re-released.  Oh yeah if you
didn't read the subject line the album title is Niandra la'des and usually
just a t-shirt.

I know there is someone in here who likes the red hot chili peppers, I saw
them quoting them.

Marcus.

"discipline is a way to teach the stupid"
                                                Monkey-Magic

Guitarist John Frusciante's Rejoining Chili Peppers Praised,


"Rather than looking for a fresh face to fill the frequently vacated guitar
spot in their band, members of the L.A.-based punk-funk band the Red Hot Chili
Peppers have once again joined forces with their ex-guitarist John Frusciante
with plans to put out a new album next year....."


You can read the whole story at
http://www.sonicnet.com

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Guitarist John Frusciante Ready To Funk Up Chili Peppers



05/21/98 12:06

Photo: Frusciante (pictured) was surprised when Chili Peppers singer Anthony
Kiedis came to visit him in the hospital.

SonicNet Music News reports: Red Hot Chili Peppers vocalist Anthony Kiedis was
probably the last person guitarist John Frusciante thought he'd wake up and see
towering above him in his hospital room.

Frusciante had barely spoken to the tattooed lead singer since he'd packed up
his guitars and split from the Peppers in 1992, he said. So, when Kiedis walked
back into his life in January, Frusciante said the sight of his estranged pal
came as something of a surprise.

Little did he know that the moment would foreshadow bigger things to come --
not to mention the band's return to its funky former self.

Frusciante, who helped the band develop its funk-punk sound during the Chili
Peppers' most successful period of the late '80s and early '90s, last month
rejoined the group to fill the spot left empty when former Jane's Addiction
guitarist Dave Navarro quit to concentrate on his side project, Spread. "I was
in the hospital in January trying to get my mental health together," said
Frusciante, 28, from his L.A. home on Wednesday (May 20), "and Anthony visited
me a few times, and then, when Flea came back from his vacation, we all started
hanging out and it was really great."

Frusciante, who has battled with drug addiction in the past, would not specify
why he was hospitalized -- other than to say it wasn't because he was
"physically addicted to anything" -- but said he was overjoyed to be back in the
band. "I never thought I'd be back in this band," Frusciante said.

But the guitarist, who released two solo albums after his departure from the
band, said when Kiedis began visiting him in the hospital, he felt a new bond
forming. "There was just a feeling in the air, for us to be talking and getting
along was a new thing. We're really good friends now, which wasn't the case the
last year I was in the band."

As the group's fourth (and now eighth) guitarist, Frusciante played on two of
the biggest-selling albums released during the Chili Peppers' 15-year career --
1989's Mother's Milk, which featured the hit "Knock Me Down" and a cover of
Stevie Wonder's "Higher Ground," and 1991's multi-platinum Blood Sugar Sex
Magik, which featured the hits "Give It Away" (RealAudio excerpt), "Under the
Bridge" and "Breaking the Girl."

During his last year in the Peppers, Frusciante said he didn't feel like he was
in a band at all, since the members didn't speak to each other unless they had
to and tensions were running high. But now, ever since he began
five-times-a-week rehearsals with Kiedis and bass player Flea (drummer Chad
Smith is on vacation), Frusciante said he'd be going over to Flea's house every
day, even if he wasn't playing in the band.

The group, which hasn't released an album since 1995's One Hot Minute, has
written seven new songs, according to Frusciante, and plan to enter the studio
as soon as it has enough music for an album. Not surprisingly, Frusciante said
the sound that has emerged so far is much closer to the hard funk groove that he
perfected with the group than the slightly heavier, less funk-derived vibe on
its last album.

"It's definitely going to sound a lot more like what I did in the band than
what Dave [Navarro] did," Frusciante said. "As far as the funk, it should have a
really heavy aspect of that. I don't really play that kind of heavy-metal
stuff." Frusciante also said that, for the first time since he's been associated
with the band, he, Flea and Kiedis are writing together and Kiedis is churning
out lyrics in a timely fashion, rather than waiting for Kiedis to come back to
them with lyrics after the songs have been demoed.

Navarro, who recorded only One Hot Minute with the Peppers, said the return of
Frusciante was "probably one of the best things that could happen to the band."

And Frusciante booster Rick Chapman couldn't agree more. "I feel that John
rejoining the Chili Peppers is within the best interests of the band," wrote the
19- year-old University of Connecticut student and webmaster of the "Been Insane
-- Unofficial John Frusciante" website in an e-mail. "I feel (and I know many
Peppers fans agree) that they were definitely at their best with John Frusciante
intact. With John back in the band, they can return to a level of creativity
that I feel has been lost for the past several years."

In addition to the loss of Navarro, the past year has been a tumultuous one for
the band, with a string of scheduled dates being canceled several times
following separate motorcycle accidents that sidelined drummer Smith and Kiedis.
Certainly contributing to the band's slow return to the studio and the road was
the public admission by Kiedis of a drug relapse and a subsequent stay in a
rehabilitation facility.

While Frusciante -- who referred to drugs as "the greatest thing in the world"
-- is not about to denounce substance use, he added that drugs would not
interfere with the Chili Peppers' music-making.

"I love drugs very much," Frusciante said. "I also think my friends and music
are the greatest thing in the world and if we started doing drugs it wouldn't
take us in positive directions. It would distract us from what we are doing. A
lot of times you do drugs to concentrate on your feeling good, but what we're
doing now is about making other people feel good."

But it's the friendship that has re-formed between Frusciante and his fellow
Chili Peppers that is driving the band forward now, he said. "When I was 9 years
old, I really wanted to start a punk-rock band," Frusciante said. "But [the
other two members] didn't have much interest in punk-rock. Now, this feels like
the same thing, the same excitement, except I get to do it with Flea, the
greatest bass player in the world, and Chad, the most violent drummer I've ever
played with, and a best friend like Anthony as the singer.

"For us to be so competent on our instruments and to have so much love for each
other ... to spend every day doing that, anyone would love to lead a life like
that. I've living my life to make that little kid proud."

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From an interview in the July 2002 issue of Q (British music
magazine):

 He [John Frusciante, Red Hot Chili Peppers' guitarist] spends
the interview with a beatific grin on his face.  Although better than
he once was, he still has a precarious  grip on the world outside
music.  He doesn't drive (in LA, the height of eccentricity) or follow
the news -- and it shows.
 "Making art is about accepting what's going on around you and
turning it into something beautiful, no matter what it is," he
mumbles.  "During this record we had the catastrophe at the EMPIRE
STATE BUILDING [emphasis added] and we just kept on writing."
 His being the only man in America who isn't sure which
building collapsed on 11 September may be alarming but, after what
Frusciante's been through, it's perhaps enough that he's still alive.

John Frusciante is a criminally under-rated guitarist IMHO.  The
BloodSugar... album is the best thing the Chili's ever did and he was
definitely the best guitarist for that band (This coming from a huge Dave
Navarro/Janes Addiction fan).
Since his departure I eagerly awaited a solo album, particularly after
hearing the awesome "Ants" in Perry Farrell's movie Gift.
I grabbed an import copy of Niandra Lades... and was not disappointed.
Its like a combination of all the good elements of Barrett, Hendrix,
D.Boon, Zoot Horn Rollo and a million other things recorded on a four track
(and he says he never spent more than an hour on any track).
He definitely is a mad genius(check out the Funky Monks vid for evidence of
this) and it would be awesome to see him back with a competent band as it
would sure beat most of the shite out there these days.
I read an interview with Dave Navarro just after he joined the Chilis and
he said he would love to make an album with Frusciante whereby they would
just stand on their rooftops(they live within sight of each other) and jam.
Now that would be a beautiful thing.  

Nathan Fa`anana
C.I.T
Heretaunga
New Zealand 
faananna@mail.cit.ac.nz

In article <52j0r3$s4a@news.be.innet.net>, murphy@club.innet.lu (JOKER) says:
>
>i'm looking for a record of 'the three amoebas',a group formed by john 
>fruciante,stephen perkins and flea.could anyone tell me on which label 
>it was released and if it even exist.
>remail to murphy@club.innet.lu
>
I found this on the American Recordings Page:
http://american.recordings.com/



John Frusciante: Bio

      Beginning nowhere, a place that had been pulling me, yelling for me, chasing me as well as us,
nothing playing John Frusciante could gather ever since we were untangled at some hotels in Europe
where I was very very close to punching out some of the Interviewers there as they were insisting
that I was a rock star and not a nothing. 

Had fun with nothingness for the next year playing on stage and looking at my bass player's eyes,
and in a moment of clarity (clarity which had been developing ever since I was mistaking myself for a
grain of sand) finally jumped in a pool (mid-tour) swam in circles, then thru pipes, which led to the
ocean and swam all the way back to Los Angeles. 

I spent the next month laying on the couch, the room totally silent, doing nothing which was grateful
to be wrapping itself around me again. 

Following that month I recorded much music including the album Niandra LaDes' which was
complete 6 months later and had begun two years earlier. 

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Also recorded with "The Three Amoebas" more music for our album, 
which we started recording
two or three years before as well. The Three Amoebas are John 
Frusciante, Stephen Perkins and
Flea. 
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In December, while staying in NY I decided to consider me a painter, not a musician. This rather
insane period went on for about a year. Spent another year doing secret research and travel slightly
distending the laws of physics and chemistry and did a lot of writing. 

This led to the period that will pass over the present where I go through a notebook every two
weeks. Have done a lot of recording and writing of music in the recent months. 

My life is now running off this page...
      Contact us at american@american.recordings.com.